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Deity 2022년 3월 15일 오후 7시 08분
Lantern shouldn't go in offhand
I have to say this because it defeats the point of other off-hand items that don't give light, I have tried to substitute holding shift for torches to be out but it just doesn't work well. So what I'm trying to say is that torches should get their own item slot so you can actually use offhand buffs rather than every offhand item you get being utterly worthless.

P.S.
To everyone saying you can use food buffs. There's a limit to stuff you can put on your hotbar. The lantern is weaker than food buffs so anyone that doesn't want to have to worry about crafting thousands of just the glow food can continue to use the lantern for a lower quality light source. It's just so people can play the game without having to worry about doing chores, some people just want to explore and play the game. Not everyone likes standing at their farm for hours.
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Tpop - Natural 2022년 3월 16일 오전 12시 22분 
It should absolutely go in offhand, you're trading some free glow for utility/defense. Its so easy to make in the first place, that it shouldnt be a free buff.
Zaflis 2022년 3월 16일 오전 1시 03분 
I just do what i do in Terraria and Minecraft, leave torches on ground everywhere i go. It also lets me see possible enemy activity from much larger distance than even the greatest lantern i could carry.

Ofc the game is fighting against my torches... maybe enemies are even hitting them on purpose. But slimes sometimes spread on them and cause them to pop out.
Rinne 2022년 3월 16일 오전 1시 09분 
https://imgur.com/a/nfFmbqU

do you really need other light sauce in late game?
witness my level 10 light food buff
Astasia 2022년 3월 16일 오전 6시 52분 
Deity님이 먼저 게시:
The majority of people playing this game played games like terraria, starbound, minecraft, cube world etc. we're used to having a lantern slot. Granted minecraft doesnt have that but the caves arent pitch black ntm you can turn the gamma on minecraft up to 100 in files so you dont need to worry about things being dark in the first place

Starbound is a pretty good analogy, the light items went in the back slot where a bunch of other utility items went like EPPs for surviving hostile planets. There were EPP augments that added light but you'd have to choose between that or an augment with a combat or other utility effect. Then there were items you could hold on your tool bar to provide light, or would replace other equipment slots. It's all pretty similar to what Core Keeper offers, you can hold a lantern in the offhand, or hold a torch/flower in your main hand, or equip one or more rings that glow, or eat food that provides a glow, or stack several of the above for a brighter light.

Terraria has a light pet slot, but they are pretty useless until some of the hardmode ones. Generally you need to hold/place a torch to see for most of the game, or swing a weapon/tool that emitted light.
PhamTrinli 2022년 3월 16일 오전 7시 17분 
is the scarlet slime lantern the brightest lantern in the game? (+5 glow)
Black Captain 2022년 3월 16일 오전 7시 44분 
I litter the world with torches. Effe the lamp (... I love you lamp in my offhand)
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Deity 2022년 3월 16일 오전 9시 53분 
りんのすか님이 먼저 게시:
Lazy Dog Daddy님이 먼저 게시:
I think better food to provide higher glow would solve this ... maybe a weapon with glow , we alreadyhave ring and foods for glow , alongside lantern
Ritual Dagger has glow effect too.
have you tried using daggers though they suck I think the last time I tried using one it just attacks in a straight forward motion
Deity 2022년 3월 16일 오전 9시 55분 
Tpop - Natural님이 먼저 게시:
It should absolutely go in offhand, you're trading some free glow for utility/defense. Its so easy to make in the first place, that it shouldnt be a free buff.
not a free buff its the cost of crafting it, it may not be much but the majority of people playing this game are already used to games that have a lantern slot
Deity 2022년 3월 16일 오전 9시 57분 
りんのすか님이 먼저 게시:
https://imgur.com/a/nfFmbqU

do you really need other light sauce in late game?
witness my level 10 light food buff
only problem with that is food buffs have a timer meaning if you explore for hours you will be going through hundreds of that food it really adds up especially when you have to farm food for hours just to make up for the hundreds you use. That is a far stronger light source than lanterns though, another reason lanterns should have their own slot if you just want a permanent light buff you go for the lantern which is weaker but you dont have to use a buff every few mins to restart it
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Deity 2022년 3월 16일 오전 10시 00분 
Astasia님이 먼저 게시:
Deity님이 먼저 게시:
The majority of people playing this game played games like terraria, starbound, minecraft, cube world etc. we're used to having a lantern slot. Granted minecraft doesnt have that but the caves arent pitch black ntm you can turn the gamma on minecraft up to 100 in files so you dont need to worry about things being dark in the first place

Starbound is a pretty good analogy, the light items went in the back slot where a bunch of other utility items went like EPPs for surviving hostile planets. There were EPP augments that added light but you'd have to choose between that or an augment with a combat or other utility effect. Then there were items you could hold on your tool bar to provide light, or would replace other equipment slots. It's all pretty similar to what Core Keeper offers, you can hold a lantern in the offhand, or hold a torch/flower in your main hand, or equip one or more rings that glow, or eat food that provides a glow, or stack several of the above for a brighter light.

Terraria has a light pet slot, but they are pretty useless until some of the hardmode ones. Generally you need to hold/place a torch to see for most of the game, or swing a weapon/tool that emitted light.
yes but in those games they have more slots for buff items, core keeper has a limited amount of buff item slots thats why its such a big downgrade if you lose the buff you get from offhand for light
Saint_Aint 2022년 3월 16일 오전 11시 33분 
Tpop - Natural님이 먼저 게시:
It should absolutely go in offhand, you're trading some free glow for utility/defense. Its so easy to make in the first place, that it shouldnt be a free buff.
Why? It's a pointless item after only 30 minutes of game play.

Soon as I started farming, I never used the lantern again. I get double the light radius eating food. After some farming (about 2.5 hours combined), I have 2000 RL minutes of +4 glow. That's over 30 RL hours.

+2 glow for the cost of your offhand slot is hardly worth it. I'll take a 70% damage reduction over dismal lighting any day.
Little Strawberry 2022년 3월 16일 오후 12시 56분 
Deity님이 먼저 게시:
you shouldnt need to make a food to be able to see, we already have limited slots on the hotbar mines pretty much already full with the essentials. if anything they should just make it glow brighter than a lantern

It's almost like there's an incentive to strategize and itemize, like, you know, with nearly every RPG game. Trading a permanent slot for glow versus damage or mitigation is what makes it interesting in the first place. Having a game where you can have everything at once with no detriment or decision making is boring. Right now there are substantial amounts of sources for glow and you can either invest fully into it to reach +15 glow or you go all the way into mining and combat, offsetting it with torches and food (which you will be chugging frequently anyway).
NCDarkness 2022년 3월 16일 오후 2시 29분 
You have to make the call: you can use the lantern, hot swap torches, eat glow food, place torches, etcetera - nothing is forcing you to equip the lantern. As someone who's both run with the lantern equipped and not, you can go without it.
NCDarkness 2022년 3월 16일 오후 2시 31분 
Deity님이 먼저 게시:
りんのすか님이 먼저 게시:
https://imgur.com/a/nfFmbqU

do you really need other light sauce in late game?
witness my level 10 light food buff
only problem with that is food buffs have a timer meaning if you explore for hours you will be going through hundreds of that food it really adds up especially when you have to farm food for hours just to make up for the hundreds you use. That is a far stronger light source than lanterns though, another reason lanterns should have their own slot if you just want a permanent light buff you go for the lantern which is weaker but you dont have to use a buff every few mins to restart it

Playing with two friends of mine the past few nights, we have literally thousands of glow food on hand, plus other buff foods.
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