How does caveling creatures spawn conditions work?

[Gary]

Since there is no item to place on the ground like the slime, what makes these guys spawn? I'm talking about the cavelings, the cavelin shamans, and Groot.

Do you have to be in the forgotten ruins, or does it work if you are near them too?

Can they spawn on bridges with water or void under them?

Does the ground have to be stone for them to spawn? Or will they spawn on any type in the biome except maybe mold ground?

Can they spawn on flooring? I'm using stone floor.

[Soren]

I think they more so spawn in the boime itself, but generally not in light (like minecraft mobs)? As well as the spawn rate is off screen and very low?

I have my main world where I literally have lit up my entire forgotten ruins area with torches. I've never once seen a spawn of a caveling even when I travel through there time from time. I made side worlds to explore and used very little torch placement. I found only in the side world would cavelings ever spawn in behind where I previously explored occasionally.

[Gary]

Originally posted by Soren:

I think they more so spawn in the boime itself, but generally not in light (like minecraft mobs)? As well as the spawn rate is off screen and very low?

I have my main world where I literally have lit up my entire forgotten ruins area with torches. I've never once seen a spawn of a caveling even when I travel through there time from time. I made side worlds to explore and used very little torch placement. I found only in the side world would cavelings ever spawn in behind where I previously explored occasionally.

Okay thanks, I noticed the light lowering the spawns as well.

[AI Sin || SinNoAria]

Yeah, from observation, they don't spawn on tiles that have light, so you can use light to stop them from spawning. Conversely, if you want them to spawn, you need to remove any light. I haven't tested a later area though to see if those follow the same rules.

[Fuyukai Desu!]

The only areas I've seen them spawn again for me was areas that had ore chunks nearby, so it's rather difficult to get them spawning unlike other areas that they have a spawner ground.

[Gristle]

Infected cavelings spawn whether its lit or not

[Cyrogen]

My first time in the caveling area had heaps of them, but now going back to kill some there's almost nothing.

I've tried removing all torches, and giving the game a restart, but the spawns just aren't happening. :(

[Gary]

Originally posted by Cyrogen:

My first time in the caveling area had heaps of them, but now going back to kill some there's almost nothing.

I've tried removing all torches, and giving the game a restart, but the spawns just aren't happening. :(

same happened to me. I created a huge room and made a small farm thing in the center and took out all lights. I'm gonna try this again but with 3-4 more large rooms and swap between them to see if spawns get better or worse.

[Soren]

If I'm being honest. The easiest way to farm cavelings is solely on creating new worlds and cleaning out your forgotten ruins boime since the world is created with relatively dense amounts of cavelings. It seems setups can never rival pioneering a new world.

That's generally how I got around 100-150 crystal skull shards. I don't even need to farm them anymore. I've got every drop I've wanted from the shaman dude. Including the figurine.

[Gary]

Originally posted by Soren:

If I'm being honest. The easiest way to farm cavelings is solely on creating new worlds and cleaning out your forgotten ruins boime since the world is created with relatively dense amounts of cavelings. It seems setups can never rival pioneering a new world.

That's generally how I got around 100-150 crystal skull shards. I don't even need to farm them anymore. I've got every drop I've wanted from the shaman dude. Including the figurine.

I've avoided creating another world so far and I'm hoping to get every drop from this one first before doing that but thanks for the tip I will for sure do that post 100% completion of this world!

[z]

could it be that slimes are taking up the mob cap?

[Gary]

Originally posted by blanke:

could it be that slimes are taking up the mob cap?

The mob cap seems to work very strangely. I've been testing all sorts of things in my xp farm guide. I'm not 100% sure but I don't think it matters much if at all.

[newfie_man709]

Originally posted by Cyrogen:

My first time in the caveling area had heaps of them, but now going back to kill some there's almost nothing.

I've tried removing all torches, and giving the game a restart, but the spawns just aren't happening. :(

Same problem.