Wrestling Empire

Wrestling Empire

XProwL Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:27pm
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If you like to win matches stay away from this game.
I wish somebody would of told me this before i bought this game but your gameplay doesn't even matter, your just along for the ride. It's such a stupid mechanic and it wastes your time.

I'd rather take a ♥♥♥♥ than spend minutes aimlessly trying to pin my opponent but getting "lol noped" for ten minutes straight.
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tomaz Jan 7, 2023 @ 2:36pm 
honestly i get where you're coming from.

while having your adrenaline built up, performing a finisher on your opponent (when they have low health) knocks them out onto the ground and gives you a brief time window to pin them. use that to your advantage.
like i mentioned in another thread, if you're struggling, just get them DQ'd lol. the game doesn't penalize you for doing that so... no harm no foul.

in addition, try increasing your wrestler's stats little by little. skill, agility and stamina are the most important attributes. also, avoid increasing your stats in the gym, in roaming mode, you're better off doing it in the gimmick menu. actually, just avoid roaming mode entirely lol
Last edited by tomaz; Jan 7, 2023 @ 3:21pm
ItsGiroux Jan 7, 2023 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by XProwL:
I wish somebody would of told me this before i bought this game but your gameplay doesn't even matter, your just along for the ride. It's such a stupid mechanic and it wastes your time.

I'd rather take a ♥♥♥♥ than spend minutes aimlessly trying to pin my opponent but getting "lol noped" for ten minutes straight.
It does matter but as tomaz said he summed it up well of what helps you win more
tomaz Jan 8, 2023 @ 9:14am 
it all supposedly depends on your wrestler's stats. sure, a high agility level makes you run and perform actions faster, a high skill level makes you more likely to counter attacks, etc, but it doesn't save you from most of the random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that happens in the game.

the "whacky" rng & ai is kinda hit-or-miss for some people. randomly tripping & falling and having your moves botched for the first few times is funny. all the times after that, together with getting reversed & leapfrogged 3 times in a row regardless of my wrestler's/opponent's stats, it's like "ok dude..."

or maybe i'm just a grumpy old grandpa and i'm taking the game way, way too seriously :)
Last edited by tomaz; Jan 8, 2023 @ 3:30pm
XProwL Jan 8, 2023 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by ItsGiroux:
Originally posted by XProwL:
I wish somebody would of told me this before i bought this game but your gameplay doesn't even matter, your just along for the ride. It's such a stupid mechanic and it wastes your time.

I'd rather take a ♥♥♥♥ than spend minutes aimlessly trying to pin my opponent but getting "lol noped" for ten minutes straight.
It does matter but as tomaz said he summed it up well of what helps you win more

Yes rng effects the match more than your actual skill which is why the game is complete bs, it's a waste of time and effort when the game puts you in unwinnable situations via pins or submissions. I've even special moved someone at 0% hp and still couldn't pin them... multiple times. Like i mentioned if your going to waste my time atleast make it clear so i can spend that time using the washroom instead.

"Oh you can win you just need to ring out the wrestlers....every time" isn't an excuse for lazy gameplay. All that fun and joy this game brings is completely gone the moment you get into the ring and realise that nothing you do will get you a win and you should of just ringed yourself out to get on with it.
tomaz is correct. While the game does have some amount of RNG BS it's mostly based on a wrestlers stats. If the other guy has way better stats than you then you're just not gonna be able to pin them.
XProwL Jan 13, 2023 @ 4:56pm 
tomaz is correct. While the game does have some amount of RNG BS it's mostly based on a wrestlers stats. If the other guy has way better stats than you then you're just not gonna be able to pin them.

If my character has 80 skill and the other guy has 80 skill how come i still can't pin him?
Konkey Dong Jan 15, 2023 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by XProwL:
If my character has 80 skill and the other guy has 80 skill how come i still can't pin him?
Skill is tied to reversals and submissions, not pinning.

Get your opponent's health low, get your adrenaline up, hit them with a finisher or put them in a submission while you're in adrenaline mode. It's really that simple. Stats will definitely influence how your wrestler does in a match - if you have low strength, your moves won't do much damage; if you have low stamina, you'll have little health; if you have low skill, you'll be horrible at submissions and reversals; etc. - but you very much _can_ win matches against wrestlers with higher stats. It's similar to using created wrestlers in season modes of the WWE games on PS2; if you start with low stats, you're going to be less effective in matches against wrestlers with higher stats, but the higher your stats get, the easier it is to win matches.

All I can really recommend is read the manual for the game to make sure you understand the stats, increase your stats, play smarter, and if all else fails, lower the difficulty and the size differences(the size differences can actually be a major pain in the ass; in my current career, I have a character that's 4'10", and going against someone more than a foot taller than me with Size Differences set to "Significant" or "Exaggerated" requires me to essentially play with hit-and-run tactics for half the match, even if I have 99 strength. I have to actually play like a cruiserweight wrestling a much larger wrestler would have to.). You're by no means a slave to RNG in this game, nor do you have to rely on cheese tactics to win matches in this - honestly, the Smackdown/Vs Raw and WWE 2K games on Legend difficulty are MUCH cheaper and cheesier than this game is on Very Hard. (Jesus, flashbacks to doing the "Defeat the Streak" achievements in 2K14... *shudder*) Permitting you know the game - between the manual and the tutorial, it teaches you most of what you need to know for the game - you can go up to Very Hard and play with little problem with experience.

P.S.: I agree with tomaz's first post on increasing attributes in the "Gimmick" menu, rather than in the gym while Roaming. You have very little time to do anything while roaming if you have a match, you walk around the environments rather slow, and running around backstage will drain your health just moving from point A to point B, then draining more health doing whatever task it is to raise what stat you're trying to raise in the gym. In the gimmick menu, you'll drain some health raising your stats, but it's not nearly as bad as doing it in the gimmick menu.
ixxie Jan 28, 2023 @ 2:28am 
sorry to say it, but. skill issue. i play on very hard and regularly go on 30+ win streaks, no DQs required. it's an easy game

here's how i do it

1: read manual
2: start career
3: sign to a part-time contract ASAP. f#ck the money, you can worry about money later. take a bad deal if that's what it takes to get part-time clause
4: work out in the gym constantly on all your free days (or build your stats in gimmick, if you don't have what it takes for roam)
5: get 85-95 on every attribute. Don't forget to drink lots of water to extend your workout days, you can refill empty bottles at any sink
6: put on 100-200lbs if you're feeling it. drink milk instead of water during workouts to bulk up (you can refill milk at the tap too lol)
7: you're now a wrestling tank, have fun peeling the belts off anybody foolish enough to step in your path

the randomization of submissions and pins is really annoying no matter what, yeah, but with this strat i'm regularly finishing matches with submission/pinfall within 90 seconds (short match length setting (would also recommend this setting btw, makes it less of a slog to beat the $#!t out of ur enemies))

proof of concept
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2924715922
Holy hell, that's quite the career. What was it that killd Dizz? :LizzyD5:
ixxie Jan 29, 2023 @ 5:12pm 
She was on her way home from a match she got injured in... And got her head caved in with a swift, singular face slam, right into concrete. Right as she was hitting John Cena levels of ubiquitous in her wrestling career. Right as she hit the $5million mark, her personal career goal. She was just gonna relax and wrestle casually for a few more years; then retire, invest her money, start her own wrestling show. But nope. Didn't make it home.

Mario Sanyo was the killer.
40kTookMyName Jan 29, 2023 @ 9:35pm 
Originally posted by ix:
sorry to say it, but. skill issue. i play on very hard and regularly go on 30+ win streaks, no DQs required. it's an easy game

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2924715922

I would also add that it can be beneficial to keep your attitude high and actually befriend other wrestlers in roam by giving them things you pick up off the ground. It can get annoying when you get stopped every two steps in a crowded room with people hugging you, but when a rando decides they want to attack you and half the backroom obliterates them while you continue to your match, it's nice.
Last edited by 40kTookMyName; Jan 29, 2023 @ 9:38pm
tomaz Feb 2, 2023 @ 8:33am 
i was meaning to comment on this again but i had forgotten. what i wanted to add is, both xprowl and mobile suit are correct, to an extent.

it's not entirely impossible to pin someone/win a match and matches aren't really rigged as some people like to claim, but the game sure likes to make itself so unnecessarily convoluted and frustrating at times, especially for new players.
the AI can & will blatantly cheat in front of your face, as long as it means that the player gets ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over and the AI gets an ever so slight advantage over them. but even then, it doesn't always mean that the AI wins in the end.

sure, a match loss isn't an immediate game over, but i think i speak for almost everyone when i say that it gets very tiring and annoying when, in a match, things that should happen, don't happen, and things that shouldn't happen, happen, if that makes sense.

don't want to sound like a broken record here but doing the stuff that i've (and others) previously mentioned should increase the likelihood of winning.
Last edited by tomaz; Feb 2, 2023 @ 4:48pm
johnkilo3 Feb 2, 2023 @ 7:52pm 
You might as well put it on the "game journalist" difficulty. This game isn't very hard once you get the hang of the mechanics. The random stuff that happens just makes it more realistic to the real life wrestling business and breaks up what would otherwise grow old pretty fast. If you only care about winning, put it on the aforementioned difficulty and use the editor to put all your stats to 99. Though, at that point what is even the point of playing?
Jacket Feb 7, 2023 @ 1:29am 
You generally start off with low skill points. You have to work your way up. My guy is so strong at this point that he won a last laugh match with 48-0. I feel submitting an opponent is much easier, especially when you have adrenaline. Knock someone's health down to almost nothing by either beating them into a pulp, or using a ton of moves on them, then get them in a submission when their health bar is very low. They will most likely give up very quickly.
XProwL Feb 8, 2023 @ 8:04pm 
Originally posted by johnkilo3:
You might as well put it on the "game journalist" difficulty. This game isn't very hard once you get the hang of the mechanics. The random stuff that happens just makes it more realistic to the real life wrestling business and breaks up what would otherwise grow old pretty fast. If you only care about winning, put it on the aforementioned difficulty and use the editor to put all your stats to 99. Though, at that point what is even the point of playing?

What is the point of even playing when you can't win via pin or submission in the early game? Does the early game simply exist to get ring out victories while you pump up your stats to the point where you can win? it's not very fun spending 10 minutes on someone with no hp who just got super'd and you still can't pin or submit them because your skill is too low. Just give me the loss so i can spend that time improving my stats instead so i can go ahead and be rewarded with wins.
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Date Posted: Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:27pm
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