Army General deployment by unit type instead of batallions

[Pendragon]

Sorry if this already has a discussion as I could not find any. This is giving me headache to search for units in between different batallions on army general, it is totally chaotic. Why is it not like in the skirmish, operations or multiplayer mods? showing LOG, INF, TNK etc. instead of batallion names. This is a total mess. Is there a way to change it?

[CORRIDA]

I personally like it this way because its mirrors the actually organisation of the battalion to a certain degree and i dont think i am the only one.
I am also used to it and have no issues navigating in it but can understand if someone doesn't like it.

The fairest thing would be to add an option to change it either way, similar to the unit label.

[Pendragon]

Originally posted by CORRIDA:

I personally like it this way because its mirrors the actually organisation of the battalion to a certain degree and i dont think i am the only one.
I am also used to it and have no issues navigating in it but can understand if someone doesn't like it.

The fairest thing would be to add an option to change it either way, similar to the unit label.

At least a mod adding this option. Hopefully it will come. I don't know which one should be the default option, but after playing a lot of skirmish games, this feels so weird. Do i have to memorize every single unit/regiment/batallion one by one and quickly pick the correct option and then the sub tab to find unit.

[Elder_Forest]

The existing layout can make it more immersive in SP mode as you can easily pause to find what you are looking for but it can be frustrating in MP versus mode where you don't have that luxury..

[Pendragon]

Originally posted by Elder_Forest:

The existing layout can make it more immersive in SP mode as you can easily pause to find what you are looking for but it can be frustrating in MP versus mode where you don't have that luxury..

Pausing the game takes away the immersion and fun totally for me. I just don't like doing it. And why would I have such difficulty that I don't have on MP?

[sly1foxy]

This wouldn't make sense because the Army General campaign is meant to represent an operational level conflict. A commander wouldn't tell a unit to "give me your recce squad and a logistics squad and give it to this unit over here", that's not the way the operational level command and control works.

[Pendragon]

Originally posted by sly1foxy:

This wouldn't make sense because the Army General campaign is meant to represent an operational level conflict. A commander wouldn't tell a unit to "give me your recce squad and a logistics squad and give it to this unit over here", that's not the way the operational level command and control works.

Bruh. If you say 'that's not the way the operational level command and control works' then WARNO should better think if it's real. This is a video game. It's not even seeing itself as a 'milsim' or anything. I like the realism aspect, but putting units in groups with types in the 'deployment menu' which obviously only a thing in the game but not in the real life, does not kill the realism of the game or any other thing. There are so many 'arcade' or 'game' things in WARNO that I can not even count (which is good, because this is a GAME which shouldn't be a boring modern strategy simulator), is this the only thing making issue?

[oddball]

They're split out by formation so that you can concentrate usage in a particular formation. This can be important if for instance you are using beat up formations that are at risk of dissolving due to losses but still need them on the field for the extra income.

The platoons are mostly in as LARP imo.

[Lukas Alexander]

Originally posted by ICARDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII:

Bruh. If you say 'that's not the way the operational level command and control works' then WARNO should better think if it's real. This is a video game. It's not even seeing itself as a 'milsim' or anything. I like the realism aspect, but putting units in groups with types in the 'deployment menu' which obviously only a thing in the game but not in the real life, does not kill the realism of the game or any other thing. There are so many 'arcade' or 'game' things in WARNO that I can not even count (which is good, because this is a GAME which shouldn't be a boring modern strategy simulator), is this the only thing making issue?

But guy was right. This setup portrays actual battalion's strength and allows to easily control it's state. Most of the units won't consist even a half of tabs due to their specialised role so it's not hard to manage.

This kind of unit setup is one of the coolest things in AG and you want it to be changed because you're not capable to find what you need. If I operate realistic, premade units during strategic phase I want to get the same layout during battle to control how many stuff I have in each one of them.
In Steel Division 2 it works great and gives the feeling of realism to someone who's familiar with military tactics and various forces composition.

[Mastermatta]

Originally posted by Lukas Alexander:

Originally posted by ICARDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII:

Bruh. If you say 'that's not the way the operational level command and control works' then WARNO should better think if it's real. This is a video game. It's not even seeing itself as a 'milsim' or anything. I like the realism aspect, but putting units in groups with types in the 'deployment menu' which obviously only a thing in the game but not in the real life, does not kill the realism of the game or any other thing. There are so many 'arcade' or 'game' things in WARNO that I can not even count (which is good, because this is a GAME which shouldn't be a boring modern strategy simulator), is this the only thing making issue?

But guy was right. This setup portrays actual battalion's strength and allows to easily control it's state. Most of the units won't consist even a half of tabs due to their specialised role so it's not hard to manage.

This kind of unit setup is one of the coolest things in AG and you want it to be changed because you're not capable to find what you need. If I operate realistic, premade units during strategic phase I want to get the same layout during battle to control how many stuff I have in each one of them.
In Steel Division 2 it works great and gives the feeling of realism to someone who's familiar with military tactics and various forces composition.

I think in the tactical battles there could be an option to have it be organized either way. Its totally fair you enjoy it the way it currently is, but i think it wouldnt be a bad idea for the option to have it organized in the way it is during skirmish.

[Pendragon]

Originally posted by Lukas Alexander:

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This kind of unit setup is one of the coolest things in AG and you want it to be changed because you're not capable to find what you need. If I operate realistic, premade units during strategic phase I want to get the same layout during battle to control how many stuff I have in each one of them.
In Steel Division 2 it works great and gives the feeling of realism to someone who's familiar with military tactics and various forces composition.

Then very simply why is it grouped by the unit type on almost any other game mode?

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by ICARDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII:

Then very simply why is it grouped by the unit type on almost any other game mode?

It's only grouped by unit type in one game mode: Skirmish, and that's because players are not creating a historically accurate OOB.

[Medicus]

Originally posted by ICARDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII:

Sorry if this already has a discussion as I could not find any. This is giving me headache to search for units in between different batallions on army general, it is totally chaotic. Why is it not like in the skirmish, operations or multiplayer mods? showing LOG, INF, TNK etc. instead of batallion names. This is a total mess. Is there a way to change it?

100% agree it is a lot of work for nothing.