WARNO
will we ever get north korea and china?
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Lemonsquid Dec 22, 2024 @ 10:10am 
i doubt it, at least not for quite some time since this game is heavily focused on the european theater of war.
Salmon Sashimi 刺身 Dec 22, 2024 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by Lemonsquid:
i doubt it, at least not for quite some time since this game is heavily focused on the european theater of war.

that sucks so much
CORRIDA Dec 22, 2024 @ 10:19am 
Not even european, it's just a small part of germany.
I am really wondering why they constrict WWIII so much.
Salmon Sashimi 刺身 Dec 22, 2024 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by CORRIDA:
Not even european, it's just a small part of germany.
I am really wondering why they constrict WWIII so much.

because just like WW2 the world only exists if it is germany and only germany. Squad 44 recently had the gall to release the pacific theatre. Dont they know that WW2 was only in Europe???
Sushi Dec 22, 2024 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by CORRIDA:
Not even european, it's just a small part of germany.
I am really wondering why they constrict WWIII so much.
I believe warno will not remain a standalone game. They will likely develop and publish new ww3 themed games. No matter how amazing the games Eugen develops are, their financial concerns continue to grow, and rightly so.
Ahriman Dec 22, 2024 @ 10:58am 
To give you the official answer:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1611600/discussions/0/4299250686367786106/

Originally posted by CORRIDA:
Not even european, it's just a small part of germany.
I am really wondering why they constrict WWIII so much.

Originally posted by Yorokobe Shounen:
because just like WW2 the world only exists if it is germany and only germany. Squad 44 recently had the gall to release the pacific theatre. Dont they know that WW2 was only in Europe???

The answer to these questions is actually painfully simple, efficiency.

Making assets is not something that happens on a dime, and to get as much variety as possible out early on, the best thing to do is to focus on what would be the by far most represented equipment there is, that being those used by the US and the USSR. To make assets for just the Chinese for example, you restrict yourself to purely just Chinese units, as that is not widely used. Meanwhile, all Pact nations effectively use only Soviet equipment, with some of their own made weapons mixed in, making it easier to branch out. Thus why for example we first got the Soviets and the East Germans, because the latter hardly uses their own stuff. Poles and the Czechs on the other hand had a good amount of equipment home-made, meaning that they can't just copy-paste the equipment.

Meanwhile on the Nato side, much of Europe uses an absolutely metric ton of US-made equipment, making them the natural base to focus on first, and then you have the UK, Germany, and France that also did a solid amount of exporting, which allows them to once again branch out as we see with Northag with the Belgians and the Dutch. This will let them have a much easier time to introduce the Nordic front later down the line, cutting down on the amount of unique designs they'd have to make just to add the Swedes, the Danes, the Norwegians, and the Finns.

Keep in mind that SOUTHAG will involve Canadians and the Spanish, so we are not limited to 'just' West Germany. The campaigns themselves focus on it, just like EE. Remember, WARNO is meant to be a reboot of the series, and back then it was central Europe as well that was the battleground, followed by the Nordic front, followed by the Asian front.

Odds are, assuming development continues and the game keeps on steaming ahead as it does, after SOUTHAG we will see the Nordic front so people can get their Marines going, and then they can either curveball us with the Med, or go to Asia.

Speaking from the point of view of the 'lore', WW3 would have launched itself properly in Europe no matter what. It is the best place for the Soviets to bring their full might to bear while denying the US their main advantage, their Naval assets. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and the Middle-East brings the Soviet troops within strike range of the several Carrier taskforces US has, and there is no timeline where the Red Navy can actually put up a serious fight against them. However, the US would never bring their fleet past the Danish straits, meaning the Nato forces are locked in a land war against the Soviets.

The other Soviet Aligned Nations, aka China, Iraq, and North Korea for example would have most likely launched their own offensives to capitalise on the situation for their own conquests, exploiting the fact that US can't be everywhere at once. Either that, or they would have launched them as part of a wider plan by the Soviets to stretch Nato thin. In either case, these would be isolated war zones of their own. North Korea would attack South Korea, China would go for Japan and Taiwan, while Iraq would do what they historically did.

In other words, patience, patience, patience.
Rabidnid Dec 22, 2024 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by Yorokobe Shounen:
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It will be a long time before they complete their planned DLCs. Once that is done a Asian DLC for that theatre could work, but all the militaries in the area in 1989 were fairly limited so making them viable would be a challenge.
Pastek Dec 22, 2024 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by CORRIDA:
Not even european, it's just a small part of germany.
I am really wondering why they constrict WWIII so much.

Fistly, there's a lot of WWI and WWII games out there that only focuses on one theater of wars and just a few nations, mostly even only two (how many WWII games did we play as americans or germans and being in Europe only?).

That being said, Warno bring one of the most diversity in choice of factions and nations. I mean, just having the possibility to play DDR and Belgium is in itself great. The only other game I know doing this for DDR by example is a community-made DLC of Arma 3 (global mobilization).

In addition, there is two factions that make the core of the gameplay : NATO and Warsaw Pact. So communists nations that are not part of WP (like China, North Korea or Vietnam) are not really meant to be added to the game because they would have to make a new factions.

We know that Southag (Q2-2025) will add Canada, Spain and Czechoslovakia.

I think it is more realistic and possible to hope that other nations in Europe that are members either of NATO or WP could be added in the future (like Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania for WP. And Italy, Danemark, Norway and Portugal for NATO). We could maybe hope for some kind of more eastern and balkans nations like greece and turkey against hungary, bulgaria and romania. But this would mean creating a lot of new maps with new eastern assets which would take a lot of time and ressources. It is simplier to stay in central Europe.

I would be less surprise that they add Yougoslavia rather than China or North Korea anyway, despite it being mostly neutral and not part of WP.
Ata Dec 22, 2024 @ 8:34pm 
Originally posted by Yorokobe Shounen:
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Most players who play are european they want to see things relevant to them not asia
Originally posted by Ata:
Originally posted by Yorokobe Shounen:
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Most players who play are european they want to see things relevant to them not asia

Thats kinda narcissistic isn't it? There's a world outside Europe you know. Have you seen the influence of China nowadays??
DasaKamov Dec 22, 2024 @ 10:39pm 
The focus is on Germany and the Fulda Gap, because that was/is the most r8ealistic theatre a "Cold War Gone Hot" situation would have developed.

They're not expanding the national factions, because it's far better to put a large amount of detail and features into fewer units than than to put just a little detail and few features into many units.
South Korean T-80s when Eugen daddy. (Operation Brown Bear I and II)
Ahriman Dec 23, 2024 @ 1:58am 
Originally posted by Yorokobe Shounen:
Originally posted by Ata:
Most players who play are european they want to see things relevant to them not asia

Thats kinda narcissistic isn't it? There's a world outside Europe you know. Have you seen the influence of China nowadays??

Obviously, but it is still smarter for Eugen to focus initially on Europe, as it is still speaking from what is the most likely scenario in a Cold War Gone Hot situation the most probably location. China now has a lot of influence, but back then it was what much of Europe is to the US, a dependent ally. China wouldn't be able to cross over into Taiwan before the US fleet obliterates what little navy China had. For them to be able to do anything in Asia, they need vast majority of US resources to be focused on somewhere totally different. That means a war must start in Europe first for anyone to be able to do much else.
BRlCKSHlTHOUSE Dec 23, 2024 @ 4:01am 
When Tencent buys Eugen, you'll have many many OP Chinese units.
ChargingSnail Dec 23, 2024 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by BRICKSHlTHOUSE:
When Tencent buys Eugen, you'll have many many OP Chinese units.
XI Pooh as command infanrty - he will capture all zones at once, but thre can be only one.
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