vetted troops feel like a waste of time

[doobenhiemer]

this has been an issue since sd2 but in sd2 they had a command system which made the problem slightly nicer to handle.

id understand if vetted troops had a significant buff compared to rookie while maintain the ability to have slightly less.

but this doesn't feel like the case if i vet my inf to a good standard my troops are cut in half with no major buff.

if my troops are swarmed they will die just as fast as a rookie unit but with rookie units are more replaceable than vetted troops.

a good example are stinger and helicopters troops which if vetted only get halfed except dying the same as a normal rookie.

[Nz0]

You are 100% sure Units will get vet on their own by killing things...
It seems so obvious for you,..
Well, Then it should be easy for you to tell us how many kills are necessary for that.
From Trained to -> Veteran ? , from Veteran to -> Elite ?

"""also why revive a post i made in 2022?"""
coz i want n i can.

[doobenhiemer]

引用自 Nz0：

You are 100% sure Units will get vet on their own by killing things...
It seems so obvious for you,..
Well, Then it should be easy for you to tell us how many kills are necessary for that.
From Trained to -> Veteran ? , from Veteran to -> Elite ?

"""also why revive a post i made in 2022?"""
coz i want n i can.

they don't level up, i've never seen my level up after getting a bunch of kills

[canseir]

引用自 (short bus) Mrs. Kwan：

引用自 Nz0：

You are 100% sure Units will get vet on their own by killing things...
It seems so obvious for you,..
Well, Then it should be easy for you to tell us how many kills are necessary for that.
From Trained to -> Veteran ? , from Veteran to -> Elite ?

"""also why revive a post i made in 2022?"""
coz i want n i can.

they don't level up, i've never seen my level up after getting a bunch of kills

my gaming experience says that the units do level up.
A clear example is the Uragan, in all the games that I use it it levels up, my experience does not allow me to affirm how many points are necessary to kill for a unit to rise, but using the Uragan as an example I think approximately that it is necessary to kill with one shot twice as many points as the cost of the firing unit.
Another example is the stinger units, I play them with two levels and some end the game with 3, which confirms that some units do level up according to the deaths they make. It is 100% proven.

[doobenhiemer]

引用自 canseir：

引用自 (short bus) Mrs. Kwan：

they don't level up, i've never seen my level up after getting a bunch of kills

my gaming experience says that the units do level up.
A clear example is the Uragan, in all the games that I use it it levels up, my experience does not allow me to affirm how many points are necessary to kill for a unit to rise, but using the Uragan as an example I think approximately that it is necessary to kill with one shot twice as many points as the cost of the firing unit.
Another example is the stinger units, I play them with two levels and some end the game with 3, which confirms that some units do level up according to the deaths they make. It is 100% proven.

they don't i've watched replays of units getting 5-10 plus kills on high level units they still don't rank up at all in my experience and unless you have a replay disproving it, it currently stands that they don't vet with kills

[canseir]

as you can see in the following link if the units level up


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2018227476883786433/56B8E4FCB775F7067C86EA9CE60996F9E666C601/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false



the reports after the battles, only collect the levels of the unit, without counting the officers.


and as you probably know, the uragam can only be bought with an experience level, it is confirmed that the units do increase their experience by killing enemies.

[doobenhiemer]

引用自 canseir：

as you can see in the following link if the units level up


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2018227476883786433/56B8E4FCB775F7067C86EA9CE60996F9E666C601/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false



the reports after the battles, only collect the levels of the unit, without counting the officers.


and as you probably know, the uragam can only be bought with an experience level, it is confirmed that the units do increase their experience by killing enemies.

https://imgur.com/a/UG9NxPf you can buy two at that vet level

[Nz0]

引用自 canseir：

as you can see in the following link if the units level up


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2018227476883786433/56B8E4FCB775F7067C86EA9CE60996F9E666C601/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false



the reports after the battles, only collect the levels of the unit, without counting the officers.


and as you probably know, the uragam can only be bought with an experience level, it is confirmed that the units do increase their experience by killing enemies.

or Maybe because your units was nearby Squad Commander ?
Squad Commanders are giving +1 of veterancy to all units nearby,

If during games units can really upgrade experience by themselves , Then making deck with higher experienced units is silly,,, especially if choosing more experienced units half their numbers

[canseir]

引用自 (short bus) Mrs. Kwan：

引用自 canseir：

as you can see in the following link if the units level up


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2018227476883786433/56B8E4FCB775F7067C86EA9CE60996F9E666C601/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false



the reports after the battles, only collect the levels of the unit, without counting the officers.


and as you probably know, the uragam can only be bought with an experience level, it is confirmed that the units do increase their experience by killing enemies.

https://imgur.com/a/UG9NxPf you can buy two at that vet level

You are confusing the units.
I mean the BM 27 URAGAM, with a cost of 250 points.
and you are talking about a unit of 145 points, GRAD.


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2018229469933834878/946C14DD4888CBDC2C23E1BD9496D363E8C3C3E4/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

I have shown you with graphic evidence that there are units that level up by killing enemy units, you can continue in your efforts to deny it, nothing happens, I respect that.

[canseir]

引用自 Nz0：

引用自 canseir：

as you can see in the following link if the units level up


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2018227476883786433/56B8E4FCB775F7067C86EA9CE60996F9E666C601/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false



the reports after the battles, only collect the levels of the unit, without counting the officers.


and as you probably know, the uragam can only be bought with an experience level, it is confirmed that the units do increase their experience by killing enemies.

or Maybe because your units was nearby Squad Commander ?
Squad Commanders are giving +1 of veterancy to all units nearby,

If during games units can really upgrade experience by themselves , Then making deck with higher experienced units is silly,,, especially if choosing more experienced units half their numbers

hello, it is fully confirmed and proven that the level shown by the units in the reports, which are shown after each game, is that of the unit without being affected by the +1 bonus of the officers
What is not clear to us and we cannot state categorically is the number of points needed for a unit to level up. My personal impression is that a unit levels up if it kills a unit that costs more than double with a direct hit. than its own cost in points, but I have not confirmed it.

[doobenhiemer]

引用自 canseir：

引用自 (short bus) Mrs. Kwan：

https://imgur.com/a/UG9NxPf you can buy two at that vet level

You are confusing the units.
I mean the BM 27 URAGAM, with a cost of 250 points.
and you are talking about a unit of 145 points, GRAD.


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2018229469933834878/946C14DD4888CBDC2C23E1BD9496D363E8C3C3E4/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

I have shown you with graphic evidence that there are units that level up by killing enemy units, you can continue in your efforts to deny it, nothing happens, I respect that.

no you havent you've shown a post match that does show units do upgrade but for all we know that could mean they only upgraded after the game to show how well they did, again all you have to do is show a replay of the upgrading and watch their stats go away in the same replay which is what i said before

[mndbsd]

I was told by a strike team member that the intended points necesary to promote is 2x the unit cost; a 100points unit needs to kill 200pts of enemy units to promote

I was also told that its not working as intended right now or that its bugged

I can confirm 100% that units do level up during combat, Madmat or Damned even confirmed it themselves in the past. Go scour the forums to find their post.

This is a FAQ, idk why the devs don't just pin a post with the clear answer to this.

[doobenhiemer]

引用自 mndbsd：

I was told by a strike team member that the intended points necesary to promote is 2x the unit cost; a 100points unit needs to kill 200pts of enemy units to promote

I was also told that its not working as intended right now or that its bugged

I can confirm 100% that units do level up during combat, Madmat or Damned even confirmed it themselves in the past. Go scour the forums to find their post.

This is a FAQ, idk why the devs don't just pin a post with the clear answer to this.

i seen that my 80 point aa got promoted after the match i assume the bug is that it either doesn't show while in the match or doesn't current work fully

[canseir]

引用自 (short bus) Mrs. Kwan：

引用自 mndbsd：

I was told by a strike team member that the intended points necesary to promote is 2x the unit cost; a 100points unit needs to kill 200pts of enemy units to promote

I was also told that its not working as intended right now or that its bugged

I can confirm 100% that units do level up during combat, Madmat or Damned even confirmed it themselves in the past. Go scour the forums to find their post.

This is a FAQ, idk why the devs don't just pin a post with the clear answer to this.

i seen that my 80 point aa got promoted after the match i assume the bug is that it either doesn't show while in the match or doesn't current work fully

90% of the units that are promoted if they are seen in the game.
You have needed 10 days to see one, also they treated those who wanted to explain it to you as if we were liars, the ridiculous horror that you have made is priceless, close the door when you leave and recover your humility.

[doobenhiemer]

引用自 canseir：

引用自 (short bus) Mrs. Kwan：

i seen that my 80 point aa got promoted after the match i assume the bug is that it either doesn't show while in the match or doesn't current work fully

90% of the units that are promoted if they are seen in the game.
You have needed 10 days to see one, also they treated those who wanted to explain it to you as if we were liars, the ridiculous horror that you have made is priceless, close the door when you leave and recover your humility.

do you have a pic of that? i watched my 80 points and he never visibly ranked up while in the match only after in the kill list

it didn't take me 10 days i recently started responding 2 days ago because i was confused as to why people were posting on this


" also they treated those who wanted to explain it to you as if we were liars, the ridiculous horror that you have made is priceless, close the door when you leave and recover your humility."

you speak like a redditor, all you had to do is what mndbsd did to end the debate and even then he said it was broken in some way