paratroopers jumping out of planes

[PANTHER171]

Will we ever have airborne raids or parachuted troops in Warno? I would like to see this, it would be very pleasant and great to see it in Warno

[2 Straight Homies Doing the Gay]

There would never be an airborne operation into a contested drop zone in this type of scenario. Ever.

[milicia fiat]

planes... ? : ANTONOV 12/22 , IL-76 , HERCULES c 130, TRANSALL C 160 ????.....

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Paratroopers don't work like that

[Nats]

Remember Operation Market Garden

[BigC]

Broken Arrow has airborne raids, done few of them in last beta multiplayer playtest. But seems like Eugen don't want that in their games for some reason..

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

The fundamental flaw with mass or battlefield paradrops is that A: troops get scattered all over the place, and B: the planes and troopers are very vulnerable to AA. Portraying paradrops realistically would make it very frustrating for all involved. If you actually want to deliver troops directly into battle, the helicopters we already have are much more effective, since they can carry guns to protect their passengers.

[Mastermatta]

Originally posted by Nats:

Remember Operation Market Garden

That was in the time before advanced radar systems. In this day an age you wouldn't be able to penetrate behind enemy lines with a paratrooper drop.

That said this is a game and not everything about this game is realistic anyways. I don't think Eugen will do it because they are close to release and that would a difficult feature to implement.

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

Originally posted by Nats:

Remember Operation Market Garden

That was in the time before advanced radar systems.

Given that Market Garden was a catastrophe for the Alllied paratroops, I'm pretty sure the person you're quoting meant "remember Market Garden as an example of why parachuting troops into an active combat zone is a bad idea". ;)

[Ahriman]

Originally posted by Mastermatta:

I don't think Eugen will do it because they are close to release and that would a difficult feature to implement.

It has nothing to do with that, it is purely because it makes no sense. BA does it because lol lmao, it doesn't care about realism on that front. Helicopters were put into use in Airborne units for a reason.

You don't paradrop units into an active combat zone with contested airspace. A plane of that size is basically asking to get blown out of the sky.

It is the same reason we don't have Strat Bombers, or Tac Bombers, in WARNO.

[2 Straight Homies Doing the Gay]

You really think with things like a zsu 23-4 any military would risk some of their most costly and highly trained personnel to sit still in the air with a target on their back?

You have to be high on something, even the most out of touch people with reality can see a big problem with this...

[bastion of pragmatism]

paratroopers dropping only work against an enemy that has no way to stop them from dropping. that wouldnt make sense in warno both teams have radar guided AA systems. a paratrooper plane is HUGE and SLOW it would get shot down before reaching the battlefield.

[Poacher]

I agree that paratroops are highly vulnerable, but it is a tactic still used today to get large amounts of infantry and supply into safe zones. This would only be useful at the start of a game to quickly get infantry into position or towards the end, but you would have to be confident that you had air superiority. It would be useful on the large scale maps when the concentration of AA is in the centre of the map and the left and right flanks have been neglected. You would need to ensure you had good recon. Special forces such as Spetsnaz and SAS are used for this purpose to ensure a landing zone is secure before the drop.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Originally posted by Poacher:

I agree that paratroops are highly vulnerable, but it is a tactic still used today to get large amounts of infantry and supply into safe zones. This would only be useful at the start of a game to quickly get infantry into position or towards the end, but you would have to be confident that you had air superiority. It would be useful on the large scale maps when the concentration of AA is in the centre of the map and the left and right flanks have been neglected. You would need to ensure you had good recon. Special forces such as Spetsnaz and SAS are used for this purpose to ensure a landing zone is secure before the drop.

Sure, but again, armed helicopters (Hueys, Lynxes, Hinds, etc.) are a much safer way to do this, since they can fly low to avoid AA and provide fire support to dismounted troops.

[Ahriman]

Originally posted by Poacher:

I agree that paratroops are highly vulnerable, but it is a tactic still used today to get large amounts of infantry and supply into safe zones. This would only be useful at the start of a game to quickly get infantry into position or towards the end, but you would have to be confident that you had air superiority. It would be useful on the large scale maps when the concentration of AA is in the centre of the map and the left and right flanks have been neglected. You would need to ensure you had good recon. Special forces such as Spetsnaz and SAS are used for this purpose to ensure a landing zone is secure before the drop.

Except again, there is no safe zone on the maps WARNO has due to what they are meant to represent. It is an active battlezone from one side of the map to the other, with a contested airspace, against a modern army that has radar on both sides.

You already have airborne units for deep infiltration, and you can sneak those in a hundred times easier than a full blown cargo plane that would be spotted the moment you call it in due to how big its radar signature is, and would not be able to avoid being shot down by a MiG-21bis.

You already need good recon, because people can sneak everything between helos to straight up entire infantry units through woods and the like. Paratroopers would just be free kills in WARNO for the reason I already mentioned.

[CORRIDA]

Due to stated reasons, i think they would fit better into AG to harass rear units.
Attack AA, ART or security units, maybe even delay more powerful units