Why would I play 5th panzer instead of US 3rd Armored or UK 1st Armored?

[Linkraven]

What exactly does the 5th panzer bring that the others don't?
Let's compare with 1st armored:

Besides the Leo2a4, the 1st armored has a far stronger tank lineup, the challenger 2s are much better than the leo2a3 due to higher armor and there are more cards so you can bring more upvetted challengers, not to mention the chieftains with 20 AP.

On the infantry side, 1st armored has forward deployed shock infantry and atgm infantry as well as better ifv since the warrior has longer range than the marder and larger infatry squad.

Artillery wise 1st armored has cheaper mortar with more rounds for smoke but no towed artillery while 5th panzer has cheap towed artillery but more expensive mortar. 5th panzer also has the 203mm arti which is strong but far too expensive to be worth it, two 155 towed artillery cost almost the same and are far more effective.

Since the MLRS nerf, the MARS isn't really worth the price anymore, having two pairs of 155 towed artillery and spreading the fire will have a superior effect while also being able to use them for sniping targets with corrected shots.

LARS2 has got to be not just by far the worst artillery in the game, buy by far the worst unit in the game - I wouldn't put this in my deck even if it was for free.

The atgm helos for the 5th are absolutely horrendous, it takes a year for them to line up a shot and while the apache's are decent, they are too expensive for what the provide - the 3rd armored has apaches with atgms and rockets but cost just 40 extra points.

Recon infantry is quite similar but 1st armored has better recon helo.

AA wise, 5th panzer has excellent aa with gepards and roland3s but that's about the only good aspect.

The German HE and Cluster tornadoes cost 30 points less than the British ones, but the British ones have double the bomb loadout with stronger bombs. So it takes two cluster bombers from the 5th armored to deal the same dmg to tanks as a single bomber from the 1st armored. The 5th also has no ASF with radar missles unlike the other armored decks, the only unique thing the 5th has is the Tornado IDS MW1 but that's about it.

So TLDR, 5th panzer only has better ground AA and slightly better artillery than 1st armored and only better ground based AA than 3rd armored. Why would anyone pick 5th panzer instead of other armored decks?

[Kadesch]

I would choose it, because i prefer units i knew from my homeland for fun.
Okay an a bit crazy opinion , im not in the meta ( ;

[ChargingSnail]

Originally posted by Kadesch:

I would choose it, because i prefer units i knew from my homeland for fun.
Okay an a bit crazy opinion , im not in the meta ( ;

No, it's a quite legit reason.

[canseir]

I play with the 2 German tank decks.
My gaming experience tells me that the German 5th is more prepared to use aggressive strategies, advancing towards the Enemian tanks from the front and without stopping shooting with their shooting percentage in motion, the more the distance between tanks is shortened, the easier it is to hit and penetrate and if you add that the units in motion are more difficult to hit and penetrate then you already have everything, the German AA is excellent for advancing on the enemy, an interesting fact is the speed of the German tanks which is superior to the USA and to the English.
This reflection is based on my personal experience, it is not better or worse than any other opinion given in this forum.

But I think I know what I'm talking about perfectly:


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[Scaristotle]

Marder Milan. Get them. Love them. The 5th can pump out so many Milan's at once that it's just wasteful most of the time. The Marder is one of the best APCs I have used, from a good position they can easily take out groups of t-55/60's. They aren't so good for the 80s, but can land stuns. Infantry you can bring them with aren't the best, but are lethal when combined with the guns on the Marders. Cheapo choppers with HOT-1's and HOT-2's can do significant damage early game. Heavy Leopard tanks make swiss cheese out of t-80's. Their HE bombers are good and the AA is strong for what you get. Artillery isn't why I pick the 5th over 3rd, but m109's are my go to for artillery. They are faster and more precise than the LARS or MARS. That being said, If you just need to deny an area to the enemy, MARS is the choice, it's especially useful to soften up towns a bit before assaulting. It is also a decent counter for enemy artillery, and can often catch them relocating.

[Hobel]

But Leo are faster, which can be a big advantage and that shows in the fight again

[Rabidnid]

Faster and better Stabs. Not being American. There are lots of reasons.

[ChargingSnail]

Originally posted by Rabidnid:

Faster and better Stabs. Not being American. There are lots of reasons.

Tell us where US touched you.

[DefNotCriss]

Because you are a firm believer in the Omnissiah and view german technology is the closest you can get of what the machine god envisioned.

[oggylv1 (Dudayev)]

5th has cheaper IFVs (Marder milans) which upvetted are quite potent, but you have to close the range. Also has many light, medium and heavy tanks which other mentioned divs don´t have, best spaag in the game and good bombers. The biggest downside is very weak infantry, but they have at least better AT weapons than Americans.

[Linkraven]

Well after the new patch I got the message.
I'm just gonna play US when in NATO lmao.