Mission editor.

[Kommandantwolf]

The fact these devs where too lazy to put this in speaks volumes for me, like you dont like us complaining about army generals even though its your empty promises that keep killing our hope lol but yet you coulda made a sweet mission editor to keep us busy but when you where planning ya project out ya went "nah stuff that"..

another case of narcisistic ego maniac devs pleasing their own desires and not listening to the fans. but hey its ok, you made your dollar on us right?

[Sneaky_Beaky]

I've been asking for map tools since the RD forum, but this post is ♥♥♥♥. Not only is Eugen a small French developer; but literally narcissistic ego maniacs stole the IP to their flagship product, and tried to destroy their company.

[DDR]

Map editor is confirmed after full release i hope also missions editor for make something of different for example destroy a missile base, intercept an enemy train using only infantry, or targeted executions using only snipers

[Kommandantwolf]

Originally posted by Sneaky_Beaky:

I've been asking for map tools since the RD forum, but this post is ♥♥♥♥. Not only is Eugen a small French developer; but literally narcissistic ego maniacs stole the IP to their flagship product, and tried to destroy their company.

ah well in my defense i wasnt aware that they were subverted by some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, kinda the same thing happened with burning lands vietnam and yeh that lead dev was abit of a douche, but the actions by the contracters making that game and the dropkick youtubers trashing it destroyed it sadly, woulda been a dope game, may still resurface but yeh im kinda over the gaming scene, ive been playing games before you had windows and a mouse, just a load of ♥♥♥♥ not full of hackers usually, i was enjoying warno because i felt i escaped that and enjoy playing fair games or even against ai.

but i could and would contribute so much to this community if i could do some map/mission editing.

[Kommandantwolf]

Originally posted by DDR:

Map editor is confirmed after full release i hope also missions editor for make something of different for example destroy a missile base, intercept an enemy train using only infantry, or targeted executions using only snipers

awesome news then - yeh if we were giving an in game editor thats user friendly kinda how AOE2 used to be would be an example, and being able to use scripts and triggers, run our own audio even, make our own mission briefings, you could use an AI voice if you wanted specific accents etc. would be so cool.

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by DDR:

Map editor is confirmed after full release

I'll caution that "confirmed" is strong wording.

The devs said will look into adding some sort of editor eventually, but nothing is guaranteed at this stage in game development.

[Maxwell Boltzman Graph]

So your blaming this on focus entertainment? I don't think it was focus that let WGRD sit for nearly a decade and guess what competitors came out. Laughably I remember a game called "cold wargame" that had to go to trial because it made a competing game 6+ years after WGRD came out. Im patiently waiting for this game to finish as I dont buy alphas. I hope they really bring the tools to create single player experiences and multiplayer experiences. finally if they so choose a bit of better mod support would be good as well. I dont know if I would chose the same criticisms for them not having an editor yet.

Honestly the biggest thing they need to focus on IMO is AI leadership. Not just running all the units it can spawn down a road. If they dont improve the AI leaders, there will be no point to mission creation as they will be overly predictable. Ive set better leadership AI with just basic logic and "generally placed" objectives in ARMA 3 so they have to have some logic they can use to do the same thing.

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by 1 Bullet:

Laughably I remember a game called "cold wargame" that had to go to trial because it made a competing game 6+ years after WGRD came out.

Actually, "Cold Wargame" was shut down because the devs were scam-artists who stole art and other assets from other developers.

Honestly the biggest thing they need to focus on IMO is AI leadership. Not just running all the units it can spawn down a road.

Although that was how the AI behaved in Wargame, it's been much improved in the 3 games Eugen developed since.

[Sneaky_Beaky]

Originally posted by 1 Bullet:

So your blaming this on focus entertainment?

For Insurgency: Sandstorm, the developers NWI brought on a new publisher -- Focus. Compare Sandstorm to the original Insurgency. Now compare Red Dragon to European Escalation. I rest my case.

[Maxwell Boltzman Graph]

Originally posted by Sneaky_Beaky:

Originally posted by 1 Bullet:

So your blaming this on focus entertainment?

For Insurgency: Sandstorm, the developers NWI brought on a new publisher -- Focus. Compare Sandstorm to the original Insurgency. Now compare Red Dragon to European Escalation. I rest my case.

Wow you know of 2 games focus did. lol i think that's it for today. I have many focus games in my library and the publisher doesnt have as much as your attempting to elude to with gameplay. WGRD was quite good aside from the AI. I mean did you play ALB that was garbage, I got it for like 2$ and felt scammed.

[Maxwell Boltzman Graph]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

Originally posted by 1 Bullet:

Laughably I remember a game called "cold wargame" that had to go to trial because it made a competing game 6+ years after WGRD came out.

Actually, "Cold Wargame" was shut down because the devs were scam-artists who stole art and other assets from other developers.

Honestly the biggest thing they need to focus on IMO is AI leadership. Not just running all the units it can spawn down a road.

Although that was how the AI behaved in Wargame, it's been much improved in the 3 games Eugen developed since.

Yea so since none of that has been proven ill just ignore it. If you ask me, there was 2 major things at play. #1, Wargame sat idol forever. Someone wanted to make a new game and wargame all of the sudden cared again. #2 In an effort to prove in a copyright trial to keep the name separate they released the most random faction after like 8 years just to say "we still are here judge, rule in our favor we are still making a living off this game". Honestly 4 years ago noone was making anything like this, they sat on it so long now there is like 3 alternatives in progress.

Glad to hear the AI is better, I had no intent on playing SD series. so I should hope that the AI is better after a decade. Did they make any SP scenarios for this game yet?

[Sneaky_Beaky]

A. Your reviews agree with what I said though. You reviewed RD and Sandstorm negatively, but EE and Insurgency positively. The common thread is Focus.

B. Throwback; you, Dasa, and myself, all posted in the original 2018 thread when the splash screen got updated for RD.

C. Everyone else says that the Cold Wargame people stole assets from Eugen. Upon what do you base your rather notable disagreement?

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by 1 Bullet:

Yea so since none of that has been proven ill just ignore it.

Fact: Cold War Game was originally removed from the Steam Store due to multiple DMCA complaints.

Fact: Other games which have had DMCA complaints made against them have returned to the Steam store as soon as their dev teams removed copyrighted assets which belonged to other owners (c.f. Ghost Ship Aftermath and Box Maker for two more notorious examples).

Fact: Since those complaints about Cold War Game were made nearly 4 years ago, the game never returned to the Steam store, the dev team disbanded, and all related social media accounts went silent.

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to put two and two together. ;)

[ace17]

Originally posted by Kommandantwolf:

another case of narcisistic ego maniac devs pleasing their own desires and not listening to the fans. but hey its ok, you made your dollar on us right?

Before throwing gratuitous insults at us, you might want to pay closer attention to the official announcements we make.

> but i could and would contribute so much to this community if i could do some map/mission editing.

Regarding your contribution to the community, a good starting point is to be respectful to others.

[DDR]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

Originally posted by DDR:

Map editor is confirmed after full release

I'll caution that "confirmed" is strong wording.

The devs said will look into adding some sort of editor eventually, but nothing is guaranteed at this stage in game development.

In last summer during an interview with a developer, a player from the community asked if the map editor is confirmed and he said yes, but after early access but it is right to be cautious

[Wagon Wheel]

I would download this game again if it had an editor.