Which Eugen Systems game should I buy - singles only?

[Witek]

I am only interested in singleplayer. Campaigns, but also skimrish - I like to play battles from time to time for relaxation, and I'm already bored with RUSE;)

Warno
Steel Division
Steel Division 2
Wargame Red Dragon or All 3?

If someone recommends a specific title I would appreciate information why this one and with what dlc?

This will be the only gift I will get for Christmas, so I hope you can advise something:)

[Vain glory]

Skip Red Dragon and jump in with SD2 or Warno. There is just a bunch of QoL improvements that is missing from the early titles that makes it a pain to play. SD2 is a good starting point if you want to get into the series.

[HotRain.aka.WarmShower]

Originally posted by Vain glory:

Skip Red Dragon and jump in with SD2 or Warno. There is just a bunch of QoL improvements that is missing from the early titles that makes it a pain to play.

Hold shift to chain orders in Red dragon and its the same QoL as Warno

I would buy Red Dragon it has 4 really good campaigns that range from barrel shooting Chinese tanks to a really tricky soviet operation in japan , china vs russia border conflict and then ww3 in korea with EVERYONE invited

Also Wargame 3 Red Dragon is closest to Warno which is basically Wargame 4

[Eisen]

Broken Arrow........

[Ricktastic]

Originally posted by Vain glory:

Skip Red Dragon and jump in with SD2 or Warno. There is just a bunch of QoL improvements that is missing from the early titles that makes it a pain to play. SD2 is a good starting point if you want to get into the series.

I agree. SD2 is a good and by now large games (lots of DLC). It is great to get into Eugen games and Warno still needs lots of time to get done.

--> Try SD2 first

[Aegmar]

I liked the Single Player Campaigns in Red Dragon tbh.

[Witek]

Thank you for your replies and happy holidays:)

If anyone is interested, I decided to buy Steel Division Franchise Pack. When I finish playing it, WARNO will be a finished big game.... I hope;)

[Noblesse Oblige [KG] ⳩]

Originally posted by Witek:

Thank you for your replies and happy holidays:)

If anyone is interested, I decided to buy Steel Division Franchise Pack. When I finish playing it, WARNO will be a finished big game.... I hope;)

Good choice. SD2 is the best of them. It even beats WARNO in some areas for realism, cough, tank health bars, cough. WARNO is a close second but has some legacy red dragon stuff which makes it a tad more gamey like the tank health bars. When in reality a shell shoudl either penetrate or not and kill the tank in one or two shots and the same with HEAT warheads, instead in WARNO because modern tanks have better fire control systems, they had to slow down time to kill by having a hitpoint system. In SD2 tanks simply miss a lot until they hit and can kill in one or two hits. In WARNO tanks get killed in 10 shots! It's ridiculous.
What should be happening is that tanks should simply be kept at range shrugging off rounds and saclos should be harder to keep on target through smoke and saclos crew suppression etc. Historically I do not think the 70s and 80s HEAT missiles were that reliable anyways.

[Harvey]

They have no good single player games. Their Ai is so bad that playing the computer is just a waste of time. If they could figure out how to make the Ai better then i would recommend their single player but its just not fun and not really a challenge

[Witek]

Originally posted by Nero:

The main issue with SD2 is that it is WW2 so no helicopters no airplanes no IFVs and so on. There are far better WW2 games out there.

Be it CoH or Blitzkrieg or MoW or whatever you fancy.

How many can you play the same games? Especially since CoH3 has failed....

It's great that Steel Division doesn't have helicopters, because they're hard to balance, and seeing a helicopter that needs a hit from two rockets to fall is as funny as annoying.

The idea of Eugen Systems with different divisions and creating its own groups of units is very interesting. It allows you to get used to the units, get interested in the differences between them and their history. In classic RTS, you have a Sherman and enjoy. If you are lucky, additionally there will be Firefly. In SD, the Firefly itself has two versions - the question arises how many were there in that case? Maybe I can read about them on the Internet?