Inconsistencies/irregularities with units and weapons

[breversa]

Hello,

As I spend lots of time browsing the https://war-yes.com/ units and weapons lists, I thought I’d make a single topic to report the inconsistencies or irregularities I might find (à la https://steamcommunity.com/app/1611600/discussions/0/3882722163303159994/). :-)

Here are my findings so far, as of the BRUNE update:

- Saxon CP should have "good" optics (instead of "bad") to be aligned with other command units. <2024-03-29: Fixed.>

- Rover Wombat has a "mediocre" stealth rating (same as the command and supply Rovers) which is lower than the Rover MILAN (both standard and para). Is it because of the larger Wombat RCL armament instead of the smaller MILAN? <2024-03-29: Fixed.>

- Rover Wombat seems vastly overpriced at 50 points, as it’s vastly inferior (except speed) than the cheaper (45 points) M113A3 ACAV. Something along 20 points would be more reasonable (I haven’t compared yet with other similar units). <2024-03-29: Fixed but still pricey: 45 points)

- Rover MILAN (standard) seems underpriced at 45 points. The almost identical P4 MILAN costs 50 points, although it is 4/2 km/h faster and has a 172s longer move time (any reason why?). <2024-03-29: Fixed: 50 points both>

[Timmer120]

Oprindeligt skrevet af breversa:

I’m afraid I still don’t get what you’re referring to. :-/
Could you maybe provide a screenshot?

https://steamcommunity.com/id/timer2256/screenshot/2282826178684521878/

https://steamcommunity.com/id/timer2256/screenshot/2282826178684521506/

as an example the Jaguar has an additional shaded portion on that bar below the 1 Top Armor for some reason

Edit: if it makes you feel better, Screenshots are hard XD

[breversa]

Wow. I thought *I* had an eye for (some) detail, but you beat me to it! :D

There’s definitely 2-fold issue here:
1. The Jaguar 2 shows a discrepancy between its armor value (1) and graphical representation (looks like a 2)
2. WARNO-armoury shows a <1 top armor: https://warno-armory.com/armory/v109749_gouvion/DE/Jaguar_2_RFA

So… which one is used in-game? :)

[breversa]

I’m happy to read that the Tank Rework detailled here: https://steamcommunity.com/games/1611600/announcements/detail/3952538742045854143?snr=2___ shows that Eugen is looking into having a consistent scale for armor, range, and accuracy (at least for tanks).

I hope it will eventually include damage, price, and other all units, especially (command) infantry units! :-)

[breversa]

Hello!

Following the Bernadotte update (https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1611600/view/4152954628627996831), I went back through most of the units (not weapons) descrepancies to check which ones have been fixed since I logged them and edited my previous posts accordingly.

I'm happy to see that lots of them have been fixed/improved, although there are still quite a lot that require attention… and some odd cases where the current situation is worse (IMO) that it used to be! ^^

Thanks Eugen for keeping on improving your units' stats!!

[breversa]

More discrepancies :-)

In the armoury:

The french Gazelle Canon is listed as "anti-tank" instead of "support" (like the similarly-equipped Puma Pirate), I guess.

The british Lynx AH.1 [RKT] is listed as "transport" instead of "support". I know it's actually both, but I believe it's more a support helicopter that can transport than the contrary, because:
- it's equipped with rocket pods and not simply machine guns (like the Blackhauw, for instance)
- its name displays its loadout like other attack helicopters
Its cost (65 points) feels also way too expensive compared to the other anti-tank versions. 50 points (same as the basic Helarm) would be much more reasonable.

The british Lynx AH.1 Helarm/LBH is listed as "transport" instead of "anti-tank". Same logic.

The russian Mi-24D Desant. is listed as "transport" instead of "support". I know it's the only Mi-24 with transport capability, buuut it's still a flying tank that poses a very real threat, and should be considered as such.

All the russian Mi-24 (D, P, V) [AT] and [AT2] arelisted as "support" instead of "anti-tank".

All the Mi-8T and MTV [RKT] are listed as "transport" instead of "support", despite all other armed Mi-8 being listed as "support".

[breversa]

- The "Desant. NSV 12,7mm" incorrectly uses the PKM model.

- The NSV icon incorrectly shows an M2HB.