So... Buratino, MLRS and the state of counter battery

[Kel]

Just a friendly reminder that Buratinos in the current state of the game (and to an extend MLRS in certain setups, too much availability) breaks the overall balance / gameflow / fun of the game. Combined with a >still< to oblivion nerfed Counter Battery capability -> Not fun.

Maybe in 1v1 that's not the case, but anything 2v2 and up suffers harshly from it. No Counterplay possible here \o/

( Buratino deletes a whole sector full of heavy tanks if need be while 2x Malka struggle to kill anything btw.. just as a sidenote)

[Vovin]

The Malka definitely need a boost. I use them often but they hardly get kills in end of game stats review.

[Kamikaze Velociraptor]

Buratino is very expensive to resupply though.

[mndbsd]

no mention of mars/m270 with 60sec reload, 4 availability and peanuts to resupply?

ok

[Dekillos]

It seems to me that the problem is more related to the paper buildings on the map. When one volley from Buratino or MLRS can completely destroy the sheltered infantry along with the city without any survivors

[Abashed the Devil Stood]

Originally posted by Dekillos:

It seems to me that the problem is more related to the paper buildings on the map. When one volley from Buratino or MLRS can completely destroy the sheltered infantry along with the city without any survivors

Are you sure you're not confusing WARNO with Wargame? This is what arty needs to do but isn't.

[Marek]

Originally posted by Dekillos:

It seems to me that the problem is more related to the paper buildings on the map. When one volley from Buratino or MLRS can completely destroy the sheltered infantry along with the city without any survivors

Buratino use vacuum missle it doesn't matter if they are in the building or not.

[Kel]

Originally posted by mndbsd:

no mention of mars/m270 with 60sec reload, 4 availability and peanuts to resupply?

ok

I thought that the part with "and to an extend MLRS in certain setups, too much availability" would include that.

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by Das Sieb:

Buratino deletes a whole sector full of heavy tanks

Pics or it didn't happen.

[FREEZED]

buratino is fine, if your all troops are on small area which can be deleted by one buratino then it is balanced.

[GAINSB]

BURATINO's reloads are insanely long though, while the reload for URAGAN or MARS are way too fast, irl those weapons are very rarely used compared to 152/155mm arty, maybe it should also be the case in game, by increasing their reload time, supply cost or price for example

[IKiINIgTv]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

BURATINO's reloads are insanely long though, while the reload for URAGAN or MARS are way too fast, irl those weapons are very rarely used compared to 152/155mm arty, maybe it should also be the case in game, by increasing their reload time, supply cost or price for example

The Mars does not already cost 400 points

[IKiINIgTv]

I find the Buratino clearly too strong against tanks, ok, I think he should smash INF but not, for example, Leopard 2 of the MARS/MLRS need significantly more shots than the Buratino to kill heavy vehicles!

[Kel]

Originally posted by FREEZED:

buratino is fine, if your all troops are on small area which can be deleted by one buratino then it is balanced.

The "small" area is usually about the size of the actually "contested" area of any zone. Again, 1v1 mostly not much of an issue - anything above and the overall (required) unit density usually ensures 200++ kills per salvo / and or cleaning out the tactical objective.

Also @ Lethaldiabetic: MLRS/MARS aim time is 33s, reload time 96s. Static is relative here, since it's also a nice and cozy effect radius,

[Vovin]

Any MLRS, particularly the burito, should have an option for short salvos of like 4 rockets

[Grom-PL]

Originally posted by Kamikaze Velociraptor:

Buratino is very expensive to resupply though.

Still it wipes everything like paper cleans ♥♥♥♥ from ass.