If you are a noob and see someone advertising a match

[Breznev]

It is not a "low level match" or a "noob friendly match" it is a pubstomp. You can reset your level in this game and these people are looking for stomps.

Eugen, lets get a match maker to avoid stuff like this so new people to your games stay longer than an hour. This trick is as old as Wargame EE

[Lord Sniff]

Devs should get rid of levels alltogether if you ask me.

[Breznev]

Originally posted by HeadEyes:

Devs should get rid of levels alltogether if you ask me.

Its mind boggling why levels are in the game to begin with. In EE they sort of made sense since you had to unlock units, but since then it has only destroyed MP games.

[Icarus]

This is a issue. If you are a high level you are forced to reset because other high levels dont want to play people of the same level.

[Icarus]

Most games have people with reset accounts.

[Keinutnai]

I think levels make sense, because playing a 4v4 where one side is filled with level 20-30 and the other with levels 1-10 is going to be extremely unbalanced. Skill comes with experience. And if you get a level 3 player then you can be pretty sure he will play worse than someone with level 10+

[Angeloide]

Originally posted by HeadEyes:

Devs should get rid of levels alltogether if you ask me.

I agree, you should not be able to see others level. In my opinion it is just detrimental, in games people leave because the dont want to play with noobs or the other way arround they dont want to play with hig levels, also the games tend to be pretty unbalanced because high levels tend to switch teams to be together. Then are the games that exclude either noobs or pros so if you dont fit in their category you get kicked.

Originally posted by Breznev:

Originally posted by HeadEyes:

Devs should get rid of levels alltogether if you ask me.

Its mind boggling why levels are in the game to begin with. In EE they sort of made sense since you had to unlock units, but since then it has only destroyed MP games.

And as you have said, leveling does nothing, if you play is for having fun and improve because there is nothing to grind for or any kind of reward to trying to win a game other than just winning.

[Breznev]

Originally posted by Keinutnai:

I think levels make sense, because playing a 4v4 where one side is filled with level 20-30 and the other with levels 1-10 is going to be extremely unbalanced. Skill comes with experience. And if you get a level 3 player then you can be pretty sure he will play worse than someone with level 10+

Thing is like I said, you can simply reset your level to 0 with a 1000 hours into the game so no this is not a good thing.

[FREEZED]

it is better to play against better players so you can learn something new every time, and if you watch replays you can learn some nasty spots where you got killed from.
and losing or winning game does not mean anything, just try to play as well as you can and it should be enough, no need to be sad if you lose to better player.

[Shriker]

Whether a player resets their rank or not, the game itself (I assume) knows their actual rank, hours played, win/loss ratio, etc.

Something great that'll never happen would be to slightly nerf the higher level individual players (resulting in the entire team of pub stompers being slightly nerfed) when there is a disparity between sides... or slightly buff the players that have the lower actual rank/hours in-game etc... perhaps similar to how the different AI levels get buffed or nerfed in starting income and rate of income.

That would at least make matches a little more fair and increase the challenge for higher level players, although it seems a lot of players really don't want a challenge or else why would they pub stomp in the first place...

[Unembellished Genius]

If there is nothing to unlock then there shouldnt be visible levels. The only time there should be levels is in ranked when you cant choose your opponent and your rank is used to help find an opponent of equal skill.

[Radegast]

Skill is skill, not matter some level, hours...

Yet the R6Siege had good feature K/D ratio, interesting feature.

I like Wargames, SD, Warno. But playing only against AI. I am causal and totaly bored waiting fir match just to get kicked.

[Radegast]

Originally posted by Nero:

Seeing the level is a necessity. There is enough time wasted with getting a lobby together. I do not need the whole match be destroyed by some level 3 newbie.

Then there should be option for ranked games. Just like originaly R6Siege had it. Custom/ranked

[Breznev]

Originally posted by Nero:

Seeing the level is a necessity. There is enough time wasted with getting a lobby together. I do not need the whole match be destroyed by some level 3 newbie.

Thing is, I bet you actively would encourage those same noobs to be against you so you could stomp them into oblivion. This game needs a match maker for lobbies to randomize teams. Since eugen is dead set on levels you could even match it to mix levels for an even playing ground which would suck at first but then would even out once the levels even out from the players that have just been stacking matches for wins.

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by HeadEyes:

Devs should get rid of levels alltogether if you ask me.

They tried getting rid of levels in...AirLand Battle, I think?

The forums screamed and howled as if were the end of the world. People complained that they had no idea whether or not a teammate was a vet or a noob. People screamed and gnashed their teeth that they had no idea if their opponents were about to team-stack them or not.

Devs are basically in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. The core problem is that the gaming community as a whole accepts this myth that "High Levels=Good Player / Low Levels = Bad Player", even though the stark reality is that levels only how many games a player has under their belt, win or lose.

[Stelio Kontos]

Perhaps people should just set up matches where they are more skill even instead of getting on ever single day of their lives and pubstomp people. I don't know I guess it feels good?