StG44 for East German reservists

[M1A2C Abrams]

If you're going to give unique rifle variants to the Stasi why not include a unique rifle for the KDA too? currently they're using the AKM but in game it's actually just an AK74 model with a different name like most of the AKs in the game.

Anyways the KDA used the StG44 because they had a lower priority for equipment than NVA.

[Sokol]

StG-44 probably wouldn't still be used by 1989, and probably wasnt still used. IIRC it was used into the 1960s, a good 16-17+ years after its first deployment in 1943-1944.

By 1989 there was already the AK47. AKM and variants. AK74 and variants. and AK74M in development. The AKM was already pretty outdated.

StG-44 would be very cool, but in-game it'd probably have to have worse stats than AKM, and IDK if we want such poor performing units.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Sokol:

StG-44 probably wouldn't still be used by 1989, and probably wasnt still used. IIRC it was used into the 1960s, a good 16-17+ years after its first deployment in 1943-1944.

By 1989 there was already the AK47. AKM and variants. AK74 and variants. and AK74M in development. The AKM was already pretty outdated.

StG-44 would be very cool, but in-game it'd probably have to have worse stats than AKM, and IDK if we want such poor performing units.

all the assault rifles perform the same, in Red Dragon the YUgoslavians got the StG44 and it performed the same as an AK too.

Also East Germany wouldn't have used the AK100 aka the AK74M, they had been producing their own AKs since 1960 and had to actually reverse engineer the AK74, but they were in the process of switching to 5.56 and the STG-940 which was a Galil derived rifle.

Anyways the StG44 may be a little too outdated in theory but the Russians in Ukraine are using WWII era Mosin Nagants a whole 30 years after this game takes place because of equipment shortages so in a realistic scenario I could see them using older rifles.

[RandomBoyar]

it's like Ukraine using weapons from WW1

[Sokol]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Originally posted by Sokol:

StG-44 probably wouldn't still be used by 1989, and probably wasnt still used. IIRC it was used into the 1960s, a good 16-17+ years after its first deployment in 1943-1944.

By 1989 there was already the AK47. AKM and variants. AK74 and variants. and AK74M in development. The AKM was already pretty outdated.

StG-44 would be very cool, but in-game it'd probably have to have worse stats than AKM, and IDK if we want such poor performing units.

all the assault rifles perform the same, in Red Dragon the YUgoslavians got the StG44 and it performed the same as an AK too.

Also East Germany wouldn't have used the AK100 aka the AK74M, they had been producing their own AKs since 1960 and had to actually reverse engineer the AK74, but they were in the process of switching to 5.56 and the STG-940 which was a Galil derived rifle.

Anyways the StG44 may be a little too outdated in theory but the Russians in Ukraine are using WWII era Mosin Nagants a whole 30 years after this game takes place because of equipment shortages so in a realistic scenario I could see them using older rifles.

The russian military isnt using mosin nagants, that would be the DPR/LPR rebels who had to acquire all of their equipment from some other militarys stockpile AKA Russia and Ukraine.

The russian military would probably resort to using AK74s or AKMs again, going back a generation or two.
As such, the DDR KDA units would use AKMs and in older decades would use StG-44s, going back a generation or two. At 1989, the StG-44 would be far too old to use.
The DDR as an official military, and a very professional one compared to the many other PACT militaries, probably wouldn't have resorted to the old StG-44 at this point in time

[Sokol]

Originally posted by Sokol:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Are you a ♥♥♥♥♥♥? I can't imagine an actual woman being interested in Warno.

LMAO

Originally posted by YugoGirl:

it's like Ukraine using weapons from WW1

Ukraine only does this because they're really poor and their military industrial complex got completely destroyed by missiles
Rolling back to 1989 and in the midst of an entire NATO vs PACT war, this may not have been the case

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Sokol:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

all the assault rifles perform the same, in Red Dragon the YUgoslavians got the StG44 and it performed the same as an AK too.

Also East Germany wouldn't have used the AK100 aka the AK74M, they had been producing their own AKs since 1960 and had to actually reverse engineer the AK74, but they were in the process of switching to 5.56 and the STG-940 which was a Galil derived rifle.

Anyways the StG44 may be a little too outdated in theory but the Russians in Ukraine are using WWII era Mosin Nagants a whole 30 years after this game takes place because of equipment shortages so in a realistic scenario I could see them using older rifles.

The russian military isnt using mosin nagants, that would be the DPR/LPR rebels who had to acquire all of their equipment from some other militarys stockpile AKA Russia and Ukraine.

The russian military would probably resort to using AK74s or AKMs again, going back a generation or two.
As such, the DDR KDA units would use AKMs and in older decades would use StG-44s, going back a generation or two. At 1989, the StG-44 would be far too old to use.
The DDR as an official military, and a very professional one compared to the many other PACT militaries, probably wouldn't have resorted to the old StG-44 at this point in time

The DPR/LPR is formed from the "elite" forces of Wagner Mercenaries who had been fighting in Ukraine since 2014, they're better equipped than the regular Russian Army and yes, they also use the Mosin Nagant because the Russians were short on rifles.

The StG44 is two generations behind the standard service rifle of the NVA by 1989, they were using their AK74 equivalent the MPI 74K as standard at the time, before that they had the AK47 equivalent the MPI-KM72 and before that was the StG44, unless you want to count vastly inferior weapons like the PPSh, SKS or Kar98k.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Sokol:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Are you a ♥♥♥♥♥♥? I can't imagine an actual woman being interested in Warno.

Originally posted by YugoGirl:

it's like Ukraine using weapons from WW1

Ukraine only does this because they're really poor and their military industrial complex got completely destroyed by missiles
Rolling back to 1989 and in the midst of an entire NATO vs PACT war, this may not have been the case

It may not just be because they are poor, Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire, if I had a choice between a PKM and a Maxim on which I thought would overheat first I would go with the Maxim since it's water cooled.

It's obvious that there are not enough Dragunovs for the Russians though since the Mosin doesn't have any potential advantages over the Dragunov like the Maxim has over the PK.

[RandomBoyar]

especially those WW1 era mosin rifles that Ukraine has

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by YugoGirl:

especially those WW1 era mosin rifles that Ukraine has

It seems like you've got an axe to grind about something?

[Woozle]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Originally posted by Sokol:

Ukraine only does this because they're really poor and their military industrial complex got completely destroyed by missiles
Rolling back to 1989 and in the midst of an entire NATO vs PACT war, this may not have been the case

It may not just be because they are poor, Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire, if I had a choice between a PKM and a Maxim on which I thought would overheat first I would go with the Maxim since it's water cooled.

It's obvious that there are not enough Dragunovs for the Russians though since the Mosin doesn't have any potential advantages over the Dragunov like the Maxim has over the PK.

The PKM is actually better than an MG42 for sustained fire, sustained fire is very difficult from an MG42 becasue the barrel must be changed every 12 seconds according to the manual.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Hoshisaka Suiri:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

It may not just be because they are poor, Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire, if I had a choice between a PKM and a Maxim on which I thought would overheat first I would go with the Maxim since it's water cooled.

It's obvious that there are not enough Dragunovs for the Russians though since the Mosin doesn't have any potential advantages over the Dragunov like the Maxim has over the PK.

The PKM is actually better than an MG42 for sustained fire, sustained fire is very difficult from an MG42 becasue the barrel must be changed every 12 seconds according to the manual.

In real life machine guns are fired in bursts so the rate of fire is the same, the MG42 just has a longer period of time where it isn't firing.

Since the guns are firing virtually the same ammunition which generates the same amount of heat one gun isn't going to generate more heat than the other. The PKM just can't withstand as much heat as a MG42 because they compromised that in order to make the gun lighter. In fact the PK with its fluted barrel was actually better about heat than the PKM but it was too expensive and heavy so they switched.

That's also why they have the PKP which is designed to take the PKM and give it a heavier barrel and forced air cooling.

[Benzo-Kazooie]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Originally posted by Sokol:

Ukraine only does this because they're really poor and their military industrial complex got completely destroyed by missiles
Rolling back to 1989 and in the midst of an entire NATO vs PACT war, this may not have been the case

It may not just be because they are poor, Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire, if I had a choice between a PKM and a Maxim on which I thought would overheat first I would go with the Maxim since it's water cooled.

It's obvious that there are not enough Dragunovs for the Russians though since the Mosin doesn't have any potential advantages over the Dragunov like the Maxim has over the PK.

>Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire
Nice way of outing yourself as a dumb ass lmao

[MticiansRed]

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

Originally posted by Sokol:

Ukraine only does this because they're really poor and their military industrial complex got completely destroyed by missiles
Rolling back to 1989 and in the midst of an entire NATO vs PACT war, this may not have been the case

It may not just be because they are poor, Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire, if I had a choice between a PKM and a Maxim on which I thought would overheat first I would go with the Maxim since it's water cooled.

It's obvious that there are not enough Dragunovs for the Russians though since the Mosin doesn't have any potential advantages over the Dragunov like the Maxim has over the PK.

Mosin is used not because of lack of Dragunov. Reason is that Dragunov is not really sniper rifle, it is Marksman rifle like M14. While mosin is real sniper rifle, russia nave no mass produced modern sniper rifle for regular troops.

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Heat Contact:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

It may not just be because they are poor, Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire, if I had a choice between a PKM and a Maxim on which I thought would overheat first I would go with the Maxim since it's water cooled.

It's obvious that there are not enough Dragunovs for the Russians though since the Mosin doesn't have any potential advantages over the Dragunov like the Maxim has over the PK.

Mosin is used not because of lack of Dragunov. Reason is that Dragunov is not really sniper rifle, it is Marksman rifle like M14. While mosin is real sniper rifle, russia nave no mass produced modern sniper rifle for regular troops.

No, both the Dragunov and the Mosin have too poor accuracy to be considered sniper rifles by western standards and the Mosin is no more accurate, the Russians just don't have the capabilities to create precision weaponry, that's why their missiles are so inaccurate and they don't use guided bombs like JDAMs.

Just because it's bolt action doesn't mean it's accurate

[M1A2C Abrams]

Originally posted by Swiggity_Swooty:

Originally posted by M1A2C Abrams:

It may not just be because they are poor, Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire, if I had a choice between a PKM and a Maxim on which I thought would overheat first I would go with the Maxim since it's water cooled.

It's obvious that there are not enough Dragunovs for the Russians though since the Mosin doesn't have any potential advantages over the Dragunov like the Maxim has over the PK.

>Russia never developed a good GPMG like the MG42 or the FN MAG that is capable of heavily sustained fire
Nice way of outing yourself as a dumb ass lmao

Cope