EF-111 Raven

[ArmedGhost-]

Did I miss something or was the Rave Sead aircraft removed?

[gmsog]

removed. Honestly it makes sense as they could never fire the Harm. But whats still in the game? The complete BS MIG 31. The developers are complete bias pos.

[ArmedGhost-]

Publicado originalmente por derekchace:

removed. Honestly it makes sense as they could never fire the Harm. But whats still in the game? The complete BS MIG 31. The developers are complete bias pos.

When and why exactly was it removed?

[BlackFoxSamaki]

Publicado originalmente por LethalDiabetic-:

Publicado originalmente por derekchace:

removed. Honestly it makes sense as they could never fire the Harm. But whats still in the game? The complete BS MIG 31. The developers are complete bias pos.

When and why exactly was it removed?

It was removed in the most recent patch. No reason given. I’m fairly annoyed about it since it was probably my favorite plane and the only reason I would ever really play 8th.

[ArmedGhost-]

Publicado originalmente por BlackFoxSamaki:

Publicado originalmente por LethalDiabetic-:

When and why exactly was it removed?

It was removed in the most recent patch. No reason given. I’m fairly annoyed about it since it was probably my favorite plane and the only reason I would ever really play 8th.

Same. I went to play my 8th deck and noticed it wasn't there. Pretty annoying actually.

[Sokol]

Publicado originalmente por derekchace:

removed. Honestly it makes sense as they could never fire the Harm. But whats still in the game? The complete BS MIG 31. The developers are complete bias pos.

It would be a bias if the MiG-31 was worth using, but that 40% base accuracy makes it not very useful

[Radioshow]

The EF-111 Raven was a JAMMER only aircraft it had no HARM'S

[Vovin]

Publicado originalmente por Sokol:

Publicado originalmente por derekchace:

removed. Honestly it makes sense as they could never fire the Harm. But whats still in the game? The complete BS MIG 31. The developers are complete bias pos.

It would be a bias if the MiG-31 was worth using, but that 40% base accuracy makes it not very useful

It has always been incredibly useful. I often get an air kill on each sortie with them. Fact is they have like 8 of them and they are all autonomous (doesn't need the plane to hold target). They heavily nerfed them in recent updates though and they have a very long turn over speed now, along with only 2 being available.

[ArmedGhost-]

Publicado originalmente por Radioshow:

The EF-111 Raven was a JAMMER only aircraft it had no HARM'S

Wait. I could've sworn it had 2x anti-radar missiles.

[ArmedGhost-]

Publicado originalmente por derekchace:

removed. Honestly it makes sense as they could never fire the Harm. But whats still in the game? The complete BS MIG 31. The developers are complete bias pos.

I could've sworn that the Raven has 2x HARM's and that I've actually gotten radar kills with them.

[dumba]

It had them in-game (same as in WG). It never had them in real life.

[[EUG] MadMat]

Publicado originalmente por LethalDiabetic-:

Did I miss something or was the Rave Sead aircraft removed?

It was removed and replaced with a F-4 Wild Weasel, since EF-111 wasn't historicall able to fire any SEAD missiles.
With the new trait system, we're considering ways to reintroduce the Raven at a latter date with a dedicated EW trait.

EDIT: actually, it is duly mentionned in the patchlog:

(8ID) changed EF-111 RAVEN with F-4G WILD WEASEL

[catplane]

Fun Fact: it is still in the Tutorials...

[Sant1ago]

Publicado originalmente por EUG MadMat:

Publicado originalmente por LethalDiabetic-:

Did I miss something or was the Rave Sead aircraft removed?

It was removed and replaced with a F-4 Wild Weasel, since EF-111 wasn't historicall able to fire any SEAD missiles.
With the new trait system, we're considering ways to reintroduce the Raven at a latter date with a dedicated EW trait.

EDIT: actually, it is duly mentionned in the patchlog:

(8ID) changed EF-111 RAVEN with F-4G WILD WEASEL

But the MIG 31 is historically correct??? Cool!

[DasaKamov]

Publicado originalmente por Sant1ago:

But the MIG 31 is historically correct??? Cool!

Show us on the doll where the Mig-31 touched you with an R-33.

[BlackFoxSamaki]

Publicado originalmente por Sant1ago:

Publicado originalmente por EUG MadMat:

It was removed and replaced with a F-4 Wild Weasel, since EF-111 wasn't historicall able to fire any SEAD missiles.
With the new trait system, we're considering ways to reintroduce the Raven at a latter date with a dedicated EW trait.

EDIT: actually, it is duly mentionned in the patchlog:

But the MIG 31 is historically correct??? Cool!

Guess other planes get to benefit from "uchrony" but the Raven doesn't. Weird how Eugen's alternate timeline is only applied selectively to their game and not universally.

Pretty cool how 8th gets one of their fun toys taken away, not for balance reasons but "historical accuracy". Meanwhile the KA-50 gets a big fat alt-history pass in the game that apparently puts historical accuracy over balance...