How do you play tanks?

[seashell]

I felt that I am often losing expensive tanks and it is always atgm and infantry doing work.
My tanks can only kill something that can not shoot back. Does not matter if I use t80u or m1a1 ha.

[Sabalias]

As on a real battlefield the presence of combined arms makes a big difference. Infantry, artillery (firing both HE and smoke), tanks working together with fast air and helos in support (if it's safe enough for them).

[IvanChe]

I micromanage tank and use smoke if tank go out in open field to shoot, after fire i move him backward in cover. Don't leave tank out of sight when am using him. If i don't see any more targets i move him reverse in other position to protect with possible cluster arty fire. Just pick and shoot few times then change position.

[wychmaster]

At least for the 200pts+ tanks:

If you are not paying attention to them, keep them in cover and in the second line (500-1000m behind your front line). Otherwise, somebody will move an ATGM team or chopper closer to kill them while you are not watching.

Always have AA and infantry with your tank so that your enemy can't engage it without being punished.

Avoid going into forests or cities with them. While they can take 2-3 hits to the front, they loose their advantage over cheaper tanks at close ranges (kinetic weapons get stronger the closer they are). Also, some hidden enemy units might pop up at your uncovered sides and kill you with a single shot. If you want to go there, send the cheap tanks and infantry, not your heavy armor.

POP SMOKE - If you see an incoming high AP ATGM or an AT plane going for your tank, immediately hit the smoke key. This will trash the missile and force planes to abort its attack run. Then retreat to the next cover. If it is too far away, use mortars to create a bigger smoke screen. Make sure to reload the smoke launchers at a nearby supply truck before you get back to the fight.

Your big tanks are the kings of the open field. This is where they work best. There they can take advantage of their long range and high base damage. Even though powerful ATGMs often have a longer range, most of them need 3-4 hits to the front to kill a tank (TOWs can 2-shot Armor 17). However, they need to keep LOS during missile flight and the missiles are pretty slow compared to a main gun round. Many ATGM carriers also need to remain stationary during missile flight and they miss quite frequently. This gives you enough time to close the distance and one shot the launch platform. But as said before, keep some Infantry and AA buddies around.

It is also beneficial to know what you are dealing with. So make good use of you recon units to find and identify the enemy units. With a 17 front armor you might be willing to eat a 19AP dragon missile and keep pushing. However, if that flying missile turns out to be a 25AP TOW-2, it will hurt a lot and you might want to pop smoke and run.

Last but not least: Always repair them to full health if you can. Never send a damaged tank into the fight if you can avoid it.

[mndbsd]

engagement ranges too short

atgms too strong

1+1=2

have a good day sir

[Kamikaze Velociraptor]

ATGM in this game are actually under-powered. This is something wargame players have complained about. High AP ATGM do very little damage to heavy armor. It took 8 milan 2 to take out a T-80U. In WGRD it takes about 2-3. This ATGM is designed to pierce frontal armor. Also to be effective at tank you need to combined arms. This isn't wargame where you can streamroll a player with tanks only. You will need to place AA in the front and have recon tanks find hidden units for your tanks to kill. Infantry to kill hidden infantry units with high AP AT weapons. So many tanks have been destroyed in matches because they were ambushed by infantry. Also artillery for smoke/suppression. Air is situational. You can use at the start to clear our entrenched enemies or during the assault. If you're going to use them first then you need SEAD to protect your jets. Always have infantry with IFV near your armor. You will need them to take towns and forests. Your tank can't go into towns or forests. They will get destroyed. You should have engineer squads with recon to clear out enemy positions. Use demo satchels or napalm. Have a squad or two with AT weapons.

[thugnightly]

Honestly tanks in this game are just point pinatas. The heavy tanks are too expensive for what they are worth. The light tanks work a lot better. you just have to force CQC which really isnt that hard since most of the combat in this game is in tree lines

[Havran00]

Publicado originalmente por seashell:

I felt that I am often losing expensive tanks and it is always atgm and infantry doing work.
My tanks can only kill something that can not shoot back. Does not matter if I use t80u or m1a1 ha.

Dont use expensive tanks as your base, use those that can survive one shot from enemy tank - like T-72 (or if I remember right, modernised T-55s, T-62s, 10 front armour should be enough if I remember right). This will allow you to fall back if you get attacked by enemy Abrams or Leo 2

Use expensive tanks only if you have enough resources and front is stable and you have it all secured.

And the most important thing DONT KEEP THEM CLOSE TO EACH OTHER - there are players that make tanks rush through the road, and one well placed cluster airplane kills 800+ point worth of tanks.

[seashell]

what is the difference of using cheap tanks to support infantry and using ifv to support infantry though?

[thugnightly]

Publicado originalmente por seashell:

what is the difference of using cheap tanks to support infantry and using ifv to support infantry though?

It depends how many MGs the light tanks have. Like T55-A for example are great for fire support but don't do anything aginst tanks. I use them in forrests with btrs to kill cqc infantry. Like you never need to lose units to flame and engineer units when you have tank support

[Havran00]

Publicado originalmente por seashell:

what is the difference of using cheap tanks to support infantry and using ifv to support infantry though?

You should use both in ideal scenario. IFV like BMP-2 have exceptional anti infantry capabilities tho (but keep them away from their AT weapons or they are gonna die)

[canseir]

my opinion and experience is different from that of many players, the tank is the main unit and the one it gives you provides firepower, everything you do in the game has to be to protect it and to give it line of sight and illuminate enemies, not all players can do this requires experience and micromanagement, with the one button umo throw update they have gained a lot in durability. Each player enjoys a different way of playing, I personally like the tank and everything that surrounds it better than playing to take out 300 infantry units and burn them like paper, a matter of taste.

[seashell]

Publicado originalmente por Havran00:

Publicado originalmente por seashell:

what is the difference of using cheap tanks to support infantry and using ifv to support infantry though?

You should use both in ideal scenario. IFV like BMP-2 have exceptional anti infantry capabilities tho (but keep them away from their AT weapons or they are gonna die)

then how many of each do you buy?

[Havran00]

Publicado originalmente por seashell:

Publicado originalmente por Havran00:

You should use both in ideal scenario. IFV like BMP-2 have exceptional anti infantry capabilities tho (but keep them away from their AT weapons or they are gonna die)

then how many of each do you buy?

I usually buy 3x T-62 and 6x BMP-2 (sometimes BTR-80 and BMP-1 with Granadě launcher and Metis infantry, depending on the map) as a starter for Guard Tank division, for Rifle one it's those T-62s with KPVT, tanks with rockets are ovverated imo.

[Bambalam]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2727549821

[asaphx]

Describe how you use your tanks and we will tell you what's wrong