Why is Multiplayer so dead?

[RamjetExhaust]

This might seem like a really stupid question, but it is genuine and based on two other questions.

The first question may already be explainable by the fact of afk players, private games, or AI skirmishes, but why have a player count, sometimes comparable to wargame: red dragon but have such empty servers?

My second question is why when I can join a server , I or other new players are almost always kicked out immediately because of somebody being inexperienced (which is quite flawed considering more experienced players are almost certainly playing WARNO from time to time).

I know the game is new and player-base is quite small, but why isn't there more public engagement on the servers?

[Todeshandler]

Publicado originalmente por canseir:

Saying that RD is a better game than Warno is lying
What happens is that there are many RD players who don't want to leave their circle of comfort. With SD2, they already had a great game criticized by RD players.
Let's make things clear, the RD players wanted a very modern modern game of war and it is not what EUGENIO has provided them, that is why they are playing their asses all day with Broken Arrow, which is a game that is not even translated into different languages and it only has two nations , Warno is a very good game but you have to play it a bit to get used to things that are different .

This! I was a Red Dragon player and was not sure how I felt about Warno at first but after 100's of hours I am in love. I really do hope they have a change of heart on adding more prototype type units like the F-117 though. Or let modders do it! This game engine is great and Eugen are getting better with it. Who is to say modern is not what they do next?

[Todeshandler]

Publicado originalmente por Spook Island:

Lack of content. Performance has been pretty spotty. The new 10 v 10 map Crown is probably the worst RTS map I've ever seen (way too big), lack of nations, WARCHAT is no longer a thing because the UI is scaled down and super basic (like Steel Division - another dead game).
The reality is that Red Dragon has stayed alive after 9 years because of Warchat and Eugen is embarrassed by the audience that likes their games; even though they have kept them in business all these years.

Maybe MadMat can chime in here but I remember the reason Warchat got removed was due to ratings. The game would get a more adult rating because of Warchat.

[Spook Island]

Publicado originalmente por Todeshandler:

Publicado originalmente por Spook Island:

Lack of content. Performance has been pretty spotty. The new 10 v 10 map Crown is probably the worst RTS map I've ever seen (way too big), lack of nations, WARCHAT is no longer a thing because the UI is scaled down and super basic (like Steel Division - another dead game).
The reality is that Red Dragon has stayed alive after 9 years because of Warchat and Eugen is embarrassed by the audience that likes their games; even though they have kept them in business all these years.

Maybe MadMat can chime in here but I remember the reason Warchat got removed was due to ratings. The game would get a more adult rating because of Warchat.

This sounds like a complete load of nonsense honestly. Either that or WARCHAT really is the greatest thing Eugen ever developed considering the legacy is stronger than that of any of their games.

Warchat is the reason Red Dragon is thriving 9 years later. Steel Division and Warno ignored warchat and both have a smaller player count combined; on a consistent basis.
These are just basic facts.

[Brother Shadow]

Is that real Adult rating the game is ww3 gone hot what you need to lower that for I can understand if it’s to avoid the current events in the world seeing how the game is a potential to what could possibly be about to happen and stop the hate between pro Russian or pro nato filling up the chat

[MkH^]

How is it dead? I rarely have to wait for more than 10 minutes for a game, which is not half bad, coming from SD 2.

[Le Colonel]

This game need some time. I played 4500 hours in WRD, and can say that everething in WARNO are better ( graphic, mechanics, effects etc) also need more units, more tactical maps and elements.

[Gadget]

Hope Broken Arrow will be better. Warno is not Beginner friendly. Ranked Matchmaking isnt based on skill but only random matches. Cheese is everywhere. The gameplay is waiting 20mins to get tank rushed. Attacking first is almost always a bad idea, espacially with so many Paraunits that have ATGMs and hard forified Positions. losses are too high. Its a waiting game. Than its all about who has the better AA. Best Divisions are those with access to good AA and Helicopters and not trash tanks. Paradivisions are cancer to the early game. This game got no love from the devs...

[yumyum]

I get why people go back to red dragon, but I am enjoying the dynamics of warno a lot more than I ever enjoyed wargame. It feels more streamlined, which the hardcore players don't like but I find it makes games way more fun and its less of a stressfest. It's a good level of realism and arcade. I also actually like the division system as well because it forces teams to be more specialized instead of milquetoast.

[themediocrity]

I mean there is another thing to consider, and it pains me deeply to say, but it's age.

I started on WGEE when I was like late teens and you can do the math for how old I am now. Getting out of school I developed new interests, real career, family, etc. I don't really have time to sink massive hours into online gaming anymore and if I can't do that, I'm going to suck at it so I don't really bother with MP. Since I still know how to play WGRD reasonably well, I'm more likely to play that online as I don't need to spend lots of time I don't have to get passably good.

WARNO inherently seems aimed at an older audience compared to the Wargame series, but that means more of the people who own it are like me and are likely spending less total time gaming and far less in MP for the same reasons.

I dunno, maybe I'm the only one seeing gray hairs when I look in the mirror.

[Noblesse Oblige [KG] ⳩]

Publicado originalmente por themediocrity:

I mean there is another thing to consider, and it pains me deeply to say, but it's age.

I started on WGEE when I was like late teens and you can do the math for how old I am now. Getting out of school I developed new interests, real career, family, etc. I don't really have time to sink massive hours into online gaming anymore and if I can't do that, I'm going to suck at it so I don't really bother with MP. Since I still know how to play WGRD reasonably well, I'm more likely to play that online as I don't need to spend lots of time I don't have to get passably good.

WARNO inherently seems aimed at an older audience compared to the Wargame series, but that means more of the people who own it are like me and are likely spending less total time gaming and far less in MP for the same reasons.

I dunno, maybe I'm the only one seeing gray hairs when I look in the mirror.

Depends how settled you eventually get as you get older I guess. Some people also can't click fast enough as they get older. Eugen should be one of the more forgiving games in the RTS genre when it comes to that though.

[Radegast]

The more causal and slowpaced gameplay is reason, which keeps me from fully playing the game too.

I loved Wargame, never got into Warno and dont have time for sitting and training while having family school and other hobbies.I am looking forward for Broken Arrow.

I wish the game was slower, less units and didn't even got instantly kicked from matches quene due to low level.

I had never kicked anybody from my squad in the Squad because he is new.

[Abashed the Devil Stood]

There are 43 players online right now lmao

[Noblesse Oblige [KG] ⳩]

Usually their are over 3-600 players online in this BETA. I have seen over 700 about a month ago. But I myself only play intermittently so do not have a regular sample.

[isemados]

... that doesnt sound too bad. i want to learn the complex system. lets go MP

[Sneaky_Beaky]

1. The RD babies (4x F-14 / 8x M270 only) hate Warno because the factions are balanced.

2. The DailyGamers (and people like them) are running rampant on the 10v10, and it's actually unplayable. There's just no point in joining a rigged match where they're ghosting an AI. Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game they just 5v1 some flank, claim a conquest advantage, and arty spam the rest of the map for 15 minutes.

3. All the feedback about the toxic community, is incorrect. All of these people are just "viewing things their own way." The toxic people are DUMB. They're 100% blind to the flat total reality of "#2" -- and instead blame whatever newbies on their team. The newbies have no idea about anything, least of all "#2," and only see rage coming at them. So while this stupid pointless idiot clash is occurring, the team rigging losers laugh the whole time about how easy it is to beat [a half AI team that's busy arguing with itself].

4. This community is unendurable in its intellectual vacancy. They talk ♥♥♥♥ about Napoleon, and then next thread "but muh 200 units is so spam, I can't even keep track cos its 2 much waa waaaa...." Yo and I can't even keep track of how many brainlets confidently tried to argue with me, that all of military history is irrelevant, and only artillery matters.

5. The respective army-fanboys of either faction are a minor irritant. Countries defeated by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Afghans: USA, RU, UK, Macedon. Chill out homies. None of you are special. None of you could pull the sword from the stone.