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Cryptic Oct 1, 2022 @ 5:21pm
pivads should not have the same price as a stinger (55 with transport)
that is all.
Last edited by Cryptic; Oct 4, 2022 @ 1:27pm
Originally posted by BlackFoxSamaki:
Originally posted by Corrosion:
Originally posted by BlackFoxSamaki:
There's no option to buy the Stinger without transport so for all intents and purposes the unit is 55 points. If you only have have 35 points, you cannot buy the Stinger. Functionally the stinger is 55 points. Personally, I think most of the MANPADS are overpriced as their current performance is mediocre and will only grow worse when helicopters gain countermeasures. For whatever reason, the Stinger especially has been massively over-nerfed, the reduction to 6 per card being especially unnecessary and poorly thought out. Even the Mistral, which is probably the most powerful in terms of pure stats is 8 per card.
Thank you for hearing me out. You're right on the point
No problem. Kinda surprised that those guys were so intentionally obtuse about the whole thing. Someone did make the point that the transports can be refunded, which is true, but those transports making it back is not guaranteed and purchasing a Stinger team still requires the player to have 55 points, not 35. (So you can *potentially* get a rebate on a 55 point unit, but the actual purchase is still 55 points.)
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Cryptic Oct 1, 2022 @ 6:51pm 
no idea why this is a thing but it's goofy
Cryptic Oct 2, 2022 @ 1:56pm 
Devs? Any info on a fix? This is only since the last update
DasaKamov Oct 2, 2022 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Corrosion:
Devs? Any info on a fix? This is only since the last update
Devs are out of the office on the weekend. ;)
DasaKamov Oct 2, 2022 @ 8:12pm 
Originally posted by Miskyavine:
When are they ever in the office tho?
Monday through Friday, of course. ;)
Last edited by DasaKamov; Oct 2, 2022 @ 8:12pm
Umriss Oct 3, 2022 @ 3:34am 
Stinger unit costs 35 vs 55 for pivads.
20 more point are added for transport which is to be sold back.
3 stingers bought by 115 point have opportunities comparable to 2 pivads by 110 points.
Additional investment in transport works for every infantry unit in the game , seems reasonble.
Last edited by Umriss; Oct 3, 2022 @ 3:34am
they will polish game later as they said in july. now is prerelease.
[EUG] MadMat  [developer] Oct 3, 2022 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by Corrosion:
pivads should not have the same price as a stinger
They don't, there's 20$ difference between them.

That is all ... ;)
Cryptic Oct 3, 2022 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by Corrosion:
pivads should not have the same price as a stinger
They don't, there's 20$ difference between them.

That is all ... ;)
You mean for the transport then.
Last edited by Cryptic; Oct 3, 2022 @ 5:31am
[EUG] MadMat  [developer] Oct 3, 2022 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by Corrosion:
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
They don't, there's 20$ difference between them.

That is all ... ;)
You mean for the transport then.
No, I meant just that:
* STINGER cost 35
* PIVADS cost 55

Hence 20$ difference between them.
Mighty-Python-20 Oct 3, 2022 @ 7:19am 
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by Corrosion:
pivads should not have the same price as a stinger
They don't, there's 20$ difference between them.

That is all ... ;)
:steamthumbsup::steammocking:
seashell Oct 3, 2022 @ 7:23am 
why is the difference 20 $ instead of 20 €
[EUG] MadMat  [developer] Oct 3, 2022 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by seashell:
why is the difference 20 $ instead of 20 €
There was no € in 1989! ;)
Cryptic Oct 3, 2022 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by seashell:
why is the difference 20 $ instead of 20 €
There was no € in 1989! ;)
The transport makes them both cost 55 which is why I was confused. It used to be that they flatly costed 35 and 55. Thank you for clarifying but I think you also misunderstood because you are not taking into account the cost for transportation either

WITH transport: stinger 55. You get the 20 points back if the Jeep makes it back and is able to sell, but in order to summon them they cost the same amount in game

WITHOUT transport: stinger 35.

I do not understand how I can make it any clearer than that.
Last edited by Cryptic; Oct 3, 2022 @ 11:26am
BlackFoxSamaki (Banned) Oct 3, 2022 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
Originally posted by Corrosion:
You mean for the transport then.
No, I meant just that:
* STINGER cost 35
* PIVADS cost 55

Hence 20$ difference between them.
There's no option to buy the Stinger without transport so for all intents and purposes the unit is 55 points. If you only have have 35 points, you cannot buy the Stinger. Functionally the stinger is 55 points. Personally, I think most of the MANPADS are overpriced as their current performance is mediocre and will only grow worse when helicopters gain countermeasures. For whatever reason, the Stinger especially has been massively over-nerfed, the reduction to 6 per card being especially unnecessary and poorly thought out. Even the Mistral, which is probably the most powerful in terms of pure stats is 8 per card.
Last edited by BlackFoxSamaki; Oct 3, 2022 @ 12:37pm
Cryptic Oct 3, 2022 @ 8:14pm 
Originally posted by BlackFoxSamaki:
Originally posted by EUG MadMat:
No, I meant just that:
* STINGER cost 35
* PIVADS cost 55

Hence 20$ difference between them.
There's no option to buy the Stinger without transport so for all intents and purposes the unit is 55 points. If you only have have 35 points, you cannot buy the Stinger. Functionally the stinger is 55 points. Personally, I think most of the MANPADS are overpriced as their current performance is mediocre and will only grow worse when helicopters gain countermeasures. For whatever reason, the Stinger especially has been massively over-nerfed, the reduction to 6 per card being especially unnecessary and poorly thought out. Even the Mistral, which is probably the most powerful in terms of pure stats is 8 per card.
Thank you for hearing me out. You're right on the point
Last edited by Cryptic; Oct 3, 2022 @ 8:15pm
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