Flame LPO-50 range 530 m WTF

[unreal]

Dear developers,
In fact, the range of the LPO-50 flamethrower is only 70 meters. In the game in the woods, even half a kilometer. This is a total OP unit. Do for example only 200 meters, but 530 meters is a total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[fabrice631]

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[DasaKamov]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1611600/discussions/0/3278069532751637980/

[Oda Nobuhige]

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[naizarak]

it's a game not a simulator

[busboy999]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1611600/discussions/0/3278069532751637980/

As noted here. All ranges are currently wonky. Listed range is about 1/4 of actual distance. The LOS tool and ranges are not calibrated to real distances.

[unreal]

It doesn't make sense, the M1 Abrams has a range of 2 kilometers, it's a little more in line with reality. But 70 meters versus 500 meters is nonsense. Do you understand?

[busboy999]

Originally posted by J人R:

It doesn't make sense, the M1 Abrams has a range of 2 kilometers, it's a little more in line with reality. But 70 meters versus 500 meters is nonsense. Do you understand?

We're talking past each other. The Abrams isn't shooting 2000 meters in game. Its shooting 500 because the range distance isn't calibrated to actual distance.

Yes, 70 meters versus 500 meters is nonsense. But the flamethrower isn't shooting 500 meters, its shooting about 125 meters actual distance. If it was set for 70 meters in the armory, it would shoot about 20 meters in game.

[unreal]

M1 Abrams shooting 2000 meters in game (in reality about 3-4 km max)
Flame LPO-50 shooting 500 meters in game (in reality 70 meters) That's five times more.

Do you see the difference?

[zomGod]

I assume this is your first of these games. Throughout the series from EE onwards the ranges have continued to diverge from reality. It has made dramatically better gameplay. Flamethrowers with near zero ranges have been incredibly hard to use, sometimes not even firing between buildings. To balance the devs have had to make them very overpowered when they are within range resulting in a unit which feels more random than useful. The same is true of RPGs and other tools, in my opinion the ranges seem pretty excessive right now but they've certainly been near useless with short ranges in the past.

Ultimately its a game. Its trying to get the feel of modern combat not the reality. It does so quite successfully in my opinion. There are a lot of differences to the real world, SAM ranges in particular, missile hit percentages are especially low, T80 armour is significantly below many western tanks, etc. But the game plays well and the differences largely allow the correct feel of combat whilst realistic values does not.

[busboy999]

Originally posted by J人R:

M1 Abrams shooting 2000 meters in game (in reality about 3-4 km max)
Flame LPO-50 shooting 500 meters in game (in reality 70 meters) That's five times more.

Do you see the difference?

In game, the M1 Abrams is shooting [about] 500 meters. Not 2000. The armory says ~2000. The LoS tool says about ~2000. But it isn't ~2000. Its ~500.

If the LoS tool was properly calibrated, vehicles would be moving at the speed of aircraft and chapels would be the size of cathedrals. The LoS tool's range gradient is lying, and vehicles are not shooting as far as the armory says they are.

[unreal]

Hello busboy999, look on this screen: https://ibb.co/8Brbd00 U Can see range 2 km

It's about the principle. The tank has a range ratio of 1:2 and a personal flamethrower 1:5

[Vyllis]

+1 these units are overperforming since general small arms nerf

[nezarmstrong]

flammpatrone is absolute pure comedy right now

[Solon]

Yeah...the distance/range 'adjustment' in this gaming genre has always been a sore point with me.
Probably the biggest one...though few others.