BMP-2 never gets the kill?

[Sokol]

I recall in wargame the BMP-2 was actually pretty worthwhile against tanks with its missile, in this game i cannot recall one time where it was worth anything against a tank at all

Yes i know it itself is not a tank its an IFV obviously it is subpar compared to a tank, but literally not once has it ever killed a tank when it definitely has the ability to

what gives? its basically useless lol. it has nothing more to offer than a BTR, and if its going to be this way it might as well not even be in the game

[molnibalage]

In WG:RD BMP-2 only with the Konkurs-M worth anything because of its 23AP.

The 20AP even against the 17-19AV non superheavy tanks was close to useless. M1A1, Leo2A4, Chally 1. While in WARNO currently almost every NATO tank has 17+ AV except the very few M60...

In ALB where guns were more inaccurate and the 17AV+ tanks were few also worth more.

[Sokol]

Originally posted by molnibalage:

In WG:RD BMP-2 only with the Konkurs-M worth anything.
The 20AP even against the 17-19AV non superheavy tanks was close to useless. M1A1, Leo2A4, Chally 1. While in WARNO currently almost every NATO tank has 17+ AV except the very few M60...

Its just a liability then, i'd rather have the less armored/armed but quicker and cheaper BTR

[TRIUMPH]

You wanted the bmp3 in RD. Here if you're for some reason playing tank deck you just want to spam bmp2 as fire support for motos acting as recon by fire.

[Sokol]

Originally posted by TRIUMPH:

You wanted the bmp3 in RD. Here if you're for some reason playing tank deck you just want to spam bmp2 as fire support for motos acting as recon by fire.

Yea i was going to say forgot to include in the original post, playing as the armored division is kind of ♥♥♥♥ compared to being the rifles division. everything is just more expensive and not really that much better

[BroVVn]

Originally posted by panter:

Originally posted by TRIUMPH:

You wanted the bmp3 in RD. Here if you're for some reason playing tank deck you just want to spam bmp2 as fire support for motos acting as recon by fire.

Yea i was going to say forgot to include in the original post, playing as the armored division is kind of ♥♥♥♥ compared to being the rifles division. everything is just more expensive and not really that much better

Depends what you like. Mig-31s and T-80Us are pretty sweet.

[TRIUMPH]

Issue with armored is pretty much we don't see the whole meta due to the divs and they lack a spam tonk for forests. Map design also doesnt give them much.

[Badass_Ben]

They are effective support units

Great for pushing a 1v1 tank battle in your favor

Also flank shots


They are meant to be support vehicles for infantry, not taking tanks head on

I love BMP 2, as creeping them along with infantry in woods, basically smashes blue infantry

Their armor is enough to survive a hit from infantry rockets, and can often stun infantry before the second rocket fires

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by TRIUMPH:

Issue with armored is pretty much we don't see the whole meta due to the divs and they lack a spam tonk for forests. Map design also doesnt give them much.

Bmp’s are great woods “spam tanks” as they can eat a rocket to the face and survive

[Sokol]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

They are effective support units

Great for pushing a 1v1 tank battle in your favor

Also flank shots


They are meant to be support vehicles for infantry, not taking tanks head on

I love BMP 2, as creeping them along with infantry in woods, basically smashes blue infantry

Their armor is enough to survive a hit from infantry rockets, and can often stun infantry before the second rocket fires

Well i had 2 BMP-2s with a t-80bv go against another t-80bv and all 3 died

[Sokol]

Originally posted by panter:

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

They are effective support units

Great for pushing a 1v1 tank battle in your favor

Also flank shots


They are meant to be support vehicles for infantry, not taking tanks head on

I love BMP 2, as creeping them along with infantry in woods, basically smashes blue infantry

Their armor is enough to survive a hit from infantry rockets, and can often stun infantry before the second rocket fires

Well i had 2 BMP-2s with a t-80bv go against another t-80bv and all 3 died

I forgot to account the SU-25 killing my T-80
but still they were all firing on the single tank, and only one hit landed that did very minor damage
t-80 kills both of my BMPs with basically no damage taken

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by panter:

Originally posted by panter:

Well i had 2 BMP-2s with a t-80bv go against another t-80bv and all 3 died

I forgot to account the SU-25 killing my T-80
but still they were all firing on the single tank, and only one hit landed that did very minor damage
t-80 kills both of my BMPs with basically no damage taken

So an Su25 killed your tank

And his tank blasted your IFV’s…. Whats the issue?

[Sokol]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Originally posted by panter:

I forgot to account the SU-25 killing my T-80
but still they were all firing on the single tank, and only one hit landed that did very minor damage
t-80 kills both of my BMPs with basically no damage taken

So an Su25 killed your tank

And his tank blasted your IFV’s…. Whats the issue?

The tank, and 2 BMPs, were firing on the tank for a long enough while, and the BMPs took no SU-25 damage, and despite all of that only one of the various missiles and tank shells fired only one hit and it did basically no damage

[DasaKamov]

You admit that the BMP-2 is not meant to go against tank's - it's not even an IFV, it's an APC. Its autocannon shreds infantry , helicopters and other APCs, but it should never be expected to go toe-to-toe against an MBT of any kind.

[Sokol]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

You admit that the BMP-2 is not meant to go against tank's - it's not even an IFV, it's an APC. Its autocannon shreds infantry , helicopters and other APCs, but it should never be expected to go toe-to-toe against an MBT of any kind.

But it wasn't bad in the other title, not as good as a tank, but not bad. Here you might as well just have a BTR. Cheaper and faster. Almost never play the armored soviet division because all there is is expensive BMPs that are slow and not really efficient to use in combat

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by panter:

But it wasn't bad in the other title,

I'll admit it's been a while since I played Red Dragon, but looking at the stats, the BMP-2 in WARNO has twice the armor rating than it did in Red Dragon, and the ATGM is more accurate in WARNO, as well (it only needs to check the "to-hit" result once, as opposed to making two different "to-hit" calculations in Wargame.)

In general, the BMP-2 is intended to serve as anti-infantry/anti-helicopter fire support, while the BMP-1 is more focused on anti-light-vehicle fire support with its 73mm cannon. Their ATGMs are there to give them a way to fight back if they stumble into enemy MBTs, but they're not tank destroyers; their first and foremost duty is to deliver their troops to their destination.