Navy Units

[ZeroKing]

will there be navy unit in futures?? or least integrating into game at some point??

[⎛Double Double⎞]

So no Naval units? Is this a good or bad thing?

What do people think of the removal of Naval units?

[XRayl]

Imo they werent implemented super well in Red Dragon and i havent seen too many people use Boats so i Personally wont miss them too much
But its of course always sad when you loose options/content in comparison to older games :/

[AquilaESP]

I like the naval battles of the Wargame: Red Dragon, I think it's bad that we haven't it here too. But we are going to have the mechanics battle of Steel Division 2, that is good.

[LeutnantK]

Definitly a good thing cause the system just didn't work in Red Dragon and the making of ships took so much time that it propably prevented the inclusion of usefull mechanics and land units.

So in conclusion: trowing the navy out was basically the best decision Eugen made.

[busboy999]

Personal opinion: naval units in Red Dragon were an interesting novelty, but mostly unrealistic and just not that compelling. The Eugen games are aimed at a tactical level that makes sense with air and land domains. Off shore support from ships can make sense, but having ships on the map doesn't. If you're role playing a land component battalion commander, you would never ever ever have ships under your tactical control. Aircraft and helicopter support? Yes, that's realistic.

[MROOD]

i think if they remove this content then it needs to be replaced with something else

Naval in RD was quite a big part of the game, considering the larger maps that had see and rivers.

but I must say focusing on land units only plus air may make the game better and easier to manage for newer players,

[L-laine]

I was gonna ask the same thing. It was handled badly in red dragon. Like just a experimental feature they half-assed and never bothered to touch again. Could have been cool but stayed mediocre and broken.

[Pozieres]

No naval?

I really enjoyed that they had it in Red Dragon, I was great as part of the campaign and in many cases made the campaigns

[Clegane]

Yep - no naval. Btw I really don't like naval things in multiplayer. But yes - in single company it was fun.

[Enigmatic]

Naval was incomplete.
I don't think people disliked the idea of it.
Eugen could make a naval only game. But again, Those don't sell well I imagine.
Make spherical maps and stuff, would be sweet.

[Pozieres]

Originally posted by GNU Eklypse:

Make spherical maps and stuff, would be sweet.

Planetary Annihilation has them, you can even death star other planets. It does not hold back and even naval units have weaknesses. It really is a good game, Wargame series is my second favourite game of all time but PA takes the cake. Nerfs are not an option for them

[Pozieres]

Originally posted by Eziowicked:

majority of people didn't like or play naval in WG:RD, everyone played land based maps with no naval units for multiplayer, it would be a waste of time and resources to add something in the community didn't like.

I have never seen a comprehensive servey on those issues so I only know I enjoyed it

[Clegane]

Originally posted by Eziowicked:

Originally posted by Pozieres:

I have never seen a comprehensive servey on those issues so I only know I enjoyed it

its not suppose to be a servey, if you ever played WG:RD multiplayer no one plays naval.

True.

[Ellemann357]

Naval should be limited to rafts, riverboats and gunboats. Frigates and destroyers have no place in this game - imo

[Enigmatic]

For a Naval game due to larger scale I guess optics is the way to model curvature.
But in reality. seeing over the horizon. That is why Radar masts are put high on the ships.
Aircraft will have an huge advantage in recon but are blind to Submarines but spotted sooner then a boat would be at same distance if far enough below horizon.
Unlike Helicopters with ASW sensors.
It'd be pretty sweet.
If you surveyed RD players. Majority of them would write off naval.
If you asked anyone else though, it'd probably seen as good to be ambitious.