Sword vs Slasher

[Dralmar]

These both work well on Vegetation. I believe they are the only weapons that have a common "best vs".
So, which do you consider better, or use more, and why?
Thank you.

[Bomoo]

Originally posted by mefisto57001:

spear

^

spear good

slashers and swords are both pretty decent for harvesting rows of herbs, though. I find slashers (the Q ability, forget what it's called, zippy there and back again) are great if I have herbs in a 2x6 line, and swords (whirlwind) are better for wider, stumpier layouts like 3x4 or 3x5.

It's worth noting that +25% to vegetation is an utterly worthless damage bonus and that the scythe is nearly as good at harvesting a lot of herbs at once with its Q as the sword is.

If I HAD to use swords or slashers for fighting, I would probably go with slashers. Both the sword's Q and E seem lacklustre compared to the slashers'. Sword does look cooler, however, I think, but that's a matter of taste. I don't really like the whole illidari knockoff look of the slashers. If I could use any weapon I would use literally every other weapon but swords or slashers. Axes are great, spears are great, scythe's great, crossbow's great. Swords & slashers, for me, are for picking flowers.

[mefisto57001]

Originally posted by ToothlessRaider:

Originally posted by mefisto57001:

yes, spear

But OP didnt ask about spear. I agree spear is a great weapon and I prefer it over sword. But he asked A or B. You come in yelling OPTION C!!!


Instead, a better reply would be.


I dont use either, I prefer spear, but if I have to pick one or the other of your options, I'd suggest... That way you are helping and influencing your own likes.

Instead, you just look like a troll who cant follow instructions. Not trying to be disrespectful, just a pet peev. Its like posting looking for something under a set price. No matter the price you give, some joker always gives a item over the price you said not to go over. People like that I just want to slap lol

SPEAR me from your stupidity please.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Originally posted by mefisto57001:

Originally posted by ToothlessRaider:

But OP didnt ask about spear. I agree spear is a great weapon and I prefer it over sword. But he asked A or B. You come in yelling OPTION C!!!


Instead, a better reply would be.


I dont use either, I prefer spear, but if I have to pick one or the other of your options, I'd suggest... That way you are helping and influencing your own likes.

Instead, you just look like a troll who cant follow instructions. Not trying to be disrespectful, just a pet peev. Its like posting looking for something under a set price. No matter the price you give, some joker always gives a item over the price you said not to go over. People like that I just want to slap lol

SPEAR me from your stupidity please.

Says the one who cant read. Enjoy the block button you head

[mefisto57001]

Originally posted by ToothlessRaider:

Originally posted by mefisto57001:

SPEAR me from your stupidity please.

Says the one who cant read. Enjoy the block button you :♥♥♥♥: head

I guess I will now need to seek for psychological treatment after hearing that you blocked me. Genius move btw since I never texted you privately =)

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Dont know what you are saying blocked user

https://imgur.com/a/WB1APha


But Ill be unfollowing as well, since I am sure you are talking and I already gave my advice to the OP. Not going to keep talking to a moron who cant comprehend.

[mefisto57001]

Originally posted by ToothlessRaider:

Dont know what you are saying blocked user

https://imgur.com/a/WB1APha


But Ill be unfollowing as well, since I am sure you are talking :♥♥♥♥: and I already gave my advice to the OP. Not going to keep talking to a moron who cant comprehend.

It means that you voluntarily became the one who can not read =)
Welcome to the club pal!
Please introduce more insults so everyone can see how clever you are =)

[Bobucles]

There are very few plant based enemies in V rising, so the damage bonus is largely worthless. In terms of harvesting plants, only attack speed and skills are important. Standard attacks only reap a single plant, and each skill works differently.

The scythe is very useful as a vegetation harvesting tool. Its normal attack has great reach so it'll never fumble, the circle attack will reap an entire circle of crops, and the throw attack will reap half a dozen more.

[Smug Kot]

Originally posted by Bobucles:

There are very few plant based enemies in V rising, so the damage bonus is largely worthless. In terms of harvesting plants, only attack speed and skills are important. Standard attacks only reap a single plant, and each skill works differently.

The scythe is very useful as a vegetation harvesting tool. Its normal attack has great reach so it'll never fumble, the circle attack will reap an entire circle of crops, and the throw attack will reap half a dozen more.

Slashers Q does the sameshit, scytches are still useful since you are going to farm a lot of undeads anyway.

Also Slasher auto-attack dps is the lowest, after all is more a PvP weapon than PvE, so mixing it with Reapers is a good idea, also let you setup easy reapers E and Q in PvP.

Sword despite the nerfs is still the weapon with the highest basic attack DPS, but if is for spaming basics then you can just pick an Axe.

[morrokain10587]

Personally, I don't think having the highest auto attack dps is worth using a sword in PvE or PvP. At least in PvE, you don't often have enough breathing room to auto-attack for more than a single cycle of 3 hits unless you are willing to take damage. Even that scenario is very situational at best. Either there are too many enemies to do that or the ones that are there in fewer numbers either attack too often or deal too much damage with each attack for the player to sit still for long enough to spam auto-attack. I'm not saying I don't get hits in here or there or anything, but the skills make much much more of a difference to me.

To be honest, despite slashers technically having the lowest dps and sword having the highest, I don't really notice the difference between the two in terms of practical use in combat. The differences between their respective skills, however, is very noticeable to me.

I also don't really understand how the stun from shockwave comes into play as a balancing factor. It takes a long time to cast and hit + hit the second press and the duration of the stun keeps the target from being hit by anything else right? Not 100% sure how it works in PvP. Either way, what are you realistically able to cancel that you couldn't already cancel with any of the numerous stuns from other weapons?

Hmm, the more I think about it the more I think the sword needs a redesign. Perhaps it is not very balance-able with its current skillset if the considerations for the nerf actually matter a lot in PvP. In other words, I don't think the solution is to neuter its performance in PvE if that is the case. As someone else said, I'm only using it for the cosmetic factor. The more I get used to other weapons the less I feel good about using it.

Thoughts? (If this is derailing the thread let me know!)

[Bomoo]

Originally posted by Bobucles:

There are very few plant based enemies in V rising, so the damage bonus is largely worthless.

Are there any plant enemies at all? I can't think of any now that I try.

[morrokain10587]

Originally posted by Bomoo:

Are there any plant enemies at all? I can't think of any now that I try.

Maneaters and Treants are the only plant-based enemies currently implemented afaik. That is assuming that the plant bonus actually works against them. I was under the impression that it was only for farming purposes similar to the axe and the mace. If not, in that case the axe would technically receive a bonus to Treants and the mace would receive a bonus to Stone Golems I'd imagine.

[Lunacy]

Slashers can be nice since the moveset is basically 2 extra defensive moves, but sword's can also be used defensively if used right.

[The Pollie]

The Sword needs a hard rework, honestly. There's nothing in the kit that isn't either outperformed by other weapons or is just outright not enough to justify its use.

There's nothing this weapon brings to the table, and the only reason to use it is because you don't yet have slashers.

[Dralmar]

Thank you all for the responses. I was asking about slasher vs sword because they have the same "advantage vs."
I do appreciate the thoughts on other weapons too.
A good discussion in any case.
Thank you again.