Why do people hate it?

[Teddy Roosevelt's Tomboy]

I understand hating the UI and heatstamps, but they (11 bit) showed off what the game will be like in the gameplay trailer.

I have something I don't like (UI and lack of sound and visuals) and something i thought they would have (voices), but not to the point I want to refund it.

[Blanch Warren]

I agree that the inclusion of what amounts to funding is an odd design approach. I don't know what heat stamps is supposed to represent except state coffers.

The term is unintuitive, has no relation to heat....

[MetroidPrime87]

This is not Frostpunk, it is a completely different game. The developers really dropped the ball by changing what made us fall in love with the first game

[HedgeHo6Matt]

Originally posted by kylix999:

Originally posted by Foulcher:

We are max 10 people posting so we do not even know if people like it or not

For sure developers are incognito here and try to tell all that ppl that dislike new style of gameplay don't know what they talk about. Sorry but mobile game in style of frostpunk 1 shows that these are greed moves to milk f1 fans with pay to win mobile game:
https://youtu.be/4XgxR9L6sFs

This is so obvious, 11bit knows what worked in f1 and want push those ppl that like it to microtransactions, this is move I could expect from EA or Activision not 11bit, what a disapointment.

if you wanna get your message out there so badly why don’t you create a new discussion instead of hijacking other peoples? Edit here you did actually post a discussion and it had a very different tone. Did you get hacked? What did you just discover that the license to mobile game and went off the rails?

[V4D4RS F1ST]

Originally posted by Scarabaeus:

680 hrs in FP1 I don't like FP2 in it's current state. That's why I refunded it but I'm not giving up on the game yet.

The shift away from city building / survival to politics and management is a bit too harsh in my opinion and yes: I was aware of that. I saw the gameplay trailer and I hoped for a better Urban Empire. Both concepts can work well together but the balance of both things currently isn't right in my opinion and shifted way more towards politics leaving the majority of players (which digged FP1 for it's combination of city building and survival) behind. Politics, ideas and factions are totally fine and a nice welcoming addition.

Districts & the supply/demand systems for them are also fine but they need more possibilites regarding the "building" component, like layouting the roads by myself or place researched buildings freely in a district which affects production & pollution. This just connects you more with your city.

Also the UI...nope nope nope. I thought that the Flash-citizens from the gameplay trailer were debug tools for pathfinding and that the whole gameplay was accellerated. Ugly in my opinion. Make the citizens & automatons move at normals speeds (regardless that days/weeks are running fast in-game) Also the shiny polished steel interface simply doesn't fit with the icy-ness, despair & heavy industrialization powered by coal & oil of the FP world. A dark & cold UI would be much more fitting.

Even though this is a beta, I'm not that interested in the story of the final game. For me a story in a game is more like an interactive movie. I'm more interested in the interactivity itself than to know how a story might start/end.

If you'd ask me for a personal rating: 6/10.

ngl if i wanted to play anno 1800 i'd play anno 1800. Many of the systems you describe are reminiscent of how anno works minus the RTS combat. Personally not really a fan of this direction.

[kylix999]

Originally posted by Blanch Warren:

Frostpunk is not much more a city building game than StarCraft. You're all just approaching it that way.

Oh yeah guys remember in Star Craft managing heat zones and people starvation? You remember those good old times. Oh man those snow storms in Star Craft were crazy back in the day.

Guys this is clown world, I enjoy a lot how ppl defend this political simulator

[Foulcher]

Originally posted by kylix999:

Originally posted by Blanch Warren:

Frostpunk is not much more a city building game than StarCraft. You're all just approaching it that way.

Oh yeah guys remember in Star Craft managing heat zones and people starvation? You remember those good old times. Oh man those snow storms in Star Craft were crazy back in the day.

Guys this is clown world, I enjoy a lot how ppl defend this political simulator

If you think that FP2 is a political simulator then you are either a bit of slow brain or you did not play the beta

[[BWCC] Martin]

Originally posted by kylix999:

Originally posted by Blanch Warren:

Frostpunk is not much more a city building game than StarCraft. You're all just approaching it that way.

Oh yeah guys remember in Star Craft managing heat zones and people starvation? You remember those good old times. Oh man those snow storms in Star Craft were crazy back in the day.

Guys this is clown world, I enjoy a lot how ppl defend this political simulator

Bro. Take a step back. Projecting like this isn't healthy. It's a game.

[Kuchi.Gyz]

I was excited and I bought the deluxe edition long time ago, after playing the demo for a bit I refunded it. At this point I'll only buy it at 50% off. I just want FP1 on a new engine.

[Foulcher]

Originally posted by Kuchi.Gyz:

I was excited and I bought the deluxe edition long time ago, after playing the demo for a bit I refunded it. At this point I'll only buy it at 50% off. I just want FP1 on a new engine.

So you just want to purchase the same game with basically the same gameplay at full price. Plus FP1 is still good looking.

I understand why the gaming industry goes downhill.

[kylix999]

Originally posted by Foulcher:

Originally posted by Kuchi.Gyz:

I was excited and I bought the deluxe edition long time ago, after playing the demo for a bit I refunded it. At this point I'll only buy it at 50% off. I just want FP1 on a new engine.

So you just want to purchase the same game with basically the same gameplay at full price. Plus FP1 is still good looking.

I understand why the gaming industry goes downhill.

Extend f1 game with new mechanics of f2:
- still city builder like f1
- add fractions but tone down a lot politics
- keep expandind to frostland
- allow full control of city building like in f1
- add ai managers that will expand city if game later want to shift to bigger scope like making other settlements, war with other fractions etc. Player could hire those managers if he wanted too

All those aspects would work in f1, but now they have to abandone them to put them to mobile pay to win game, this is obvious

[Danikov]

As someone with 65535 hours in the original Frostpunk... I liked it so far. That ending teases a lot more, too...

I don't think people realise the sheer scope of this game.

[kylix999]

Originally posted by Foulcher:

Originally posted by kylix999:

Oh yeah guys remember in Star Craft managing heat zones and people starvation? You remember those good old times. Oh man those snow storms in Star Craft were crazy back in the day.

Guys this is clown world, I enjoy a lot how ppl defend this political simulator

If you think that FP2 is a political simulator then you are either a bit of slow brain or you did not play the beta

Ohh personal arguments, this is moment when You loose because it shows You do not have arguments at all, half of people are saying they do not like this new approach, read opinions in the forum.

[Foulcher]

Originally posted by kylix999:

Originally posted by Foulcher:

If you think that FP2 is a political simulator then you are either a bit of slow brain or you did not play the beta

Ohh personal arguments, this is moment when You loose because it shows You do not have arguments at all, half of people are saying they do not like this new approach, read opinions in the forum.

I just answer accordingly to your post : you describe the game in a way that does not reflect what it really is in the game.

The game is not a political simulator, you should have never played a political simulator.

If I tell you FP1 is a puzzle game, what will you answer ? Not liking something does not equate spreading nonsense.

[SecretLars]

Originally posted by rman88:

Funny thing is, if i could actual play it. I might have a better opinion of it. But considering it gave me a hard crash like 3 minutes into my first mission. After i spent 20 minutes trying to get it to work to begin with. I kinda have a low opinion of it.

Thad said what i do know about this is. This game is going to be a freaking joke. Frost punk, for all that you could describe it. Was never a puzzle game. This game has became nothing more then a Puzzle game. Where instead of trying to control heat zones and stuff like that. Your now trying to ensure Each District touches x amount of things while touching only x amount of things.

It has become in a way Candy crush where you need to line up 3 of these in a row and only touch 1 of those but line up another 3 of these. This dose not actual feel like frost punk. Combine this with the fact that resources management was replaced by money. Which is funny when you think about it.

"O hey we are starving, can you build us a new food district. "

"nope not enough cash in the bank"

"what we got the resources to build it. Just let us build it"

"nope you can't no money means no building. just starve to death"

"but we have wood and metal"

"i said no"

like come on... where did this come from? why would wealth even play a role in a city like this? they barely have any kind of prosperity to begin with. And now the want to be paid and deal with things like taxes and ♥♥♥♥. Like the world is still ending hear, why are we worried about this?

also to add insult to injury. Game is just ugly. The districts are a jumble of random buildings. The roads look horrible and disjointed. And why is everyone the flash? IS it to cover the reason why their is like only 5 people wondering around each district? like the old game you saw hundreds of people wondering about. This even thou its like 10 times larger then frost punk one. The city looks like a ghost town.

This is sad at this point. And this is coming from someone who played over 10 days straight playing FP1.

The factions that like you give you money if you ask, I was never lacking for cash when I started asking. They don't really get that mad because you are already appealing to their ideals..

[[BWCC] Martin]

Originally posted by kylix999:

Originally posted by Foulcher:

If you think that FP2 is a political simulator then you are either a bit of slow brain or you did not play the beta

Ohh personal arguments, this is moment when You loose because it shows You do not have arguments at all, half of people are saying they do not like this new approach, read opinions in the forum.

"Lose".