No geothermal option with some factions?

[loonyphoenix]

After finishing the story, I started a Utopia Builder play-through. As a location I chose Fractured Gorge because the description looked challenging (small map, geothermal with limited fuel) and because I wanted some incentive not to go full oil efficiency again. I started with randomized ambition and factions.

What I got for factions is Thinkers, Lords, and Machinists. A bit later the Venturers appeared. And none of them have any idea what to do with these geothermal deposits that I have. Sure, I can extract the steam, but the default generator doesn't use it, and the only Generator upgrade these people can think of is the Oil Pumps upgrade, once again...

This seems like an oversight, no? Or is there a way to get geothermal after all?

[[TAG]Alblaka]

Evolvers have Adaptation ideology and do add the Flexible Generator upgrade as an option. So the only downside to not starting out with an Adaptation faction, is that you'll be timegated from using Steam until the faction does appear. But due to the way the factions are set up, you will always have someone supporting any given ideology, and thus always have access to all techs (till you make an exclusive choice).

[loonyphoenix]

Sorry, I meant Venturers. I don't have the Evolvers after all.

[Wraith]

look like you need to wait for the opposition to join in to research that.
So just hold out until the menders appear

[loonyphoenix]

Am I going to get a fifth faction then? I only played story mode before that, and that maxed out at 4 factions.

[loonyphoenix]

Also, does anybody know the trigger for when new factions appear?

[Wraith]

utopia has 3 communities and 2 faction from what I can tell and you can make every faction appear (since there an achievement for this from my guess or maybe you just need to see each faction once)

Just play the game they will show up eventually but in the meantime find more coal

[NzFox]

Originally posted by loonyphoenix:

Am I going to get a fifth faction then? I only played story mode before that, and that maxed out at 4 factions.

you get 5 factions in utopia, there is something like 10ish over all. The first faction you get (other than the starting 3) is determined by your actions, then you get that factions opposite a little after that

[xfor]

There are 6 communities and 8 factions.

Each community favors one cornerstorne (progress, adaptation, ...) of the three ideology axes. => 3*2 = 6. Each faction has strong believes about all three axes. => 2^3 = 2*2*2 = 8.

At game start you get two opposing communities (same ideology axes) and one other random one (different axes). Depending on how you develop your city, you get one of the 8 factions, which likes what you did. After some time, the opposing faction will appear.

In your case, the two starting communities don't care about adaptation and the random one either also doesn't care or is opposed to it. The first faction (4th group) is opposed to it. Since the opposing faction (the 5th group) will be exactly the opposite in all three axes, you are guaranteed to have all options available then.

[Darbogale]

Originally posted by Wraith:

utopia has 3 communities and 2 faction from what I can tell and you can make every faction appear (since there an achievement for this from my guess or maybe you just need to see each faction once)

Just play the game they will show up eventually but in the meantime find more coal

Every factions, meaning Even Stalwarts and Faithkeepers ? (also then including pilgrim and evolvers ? it seems evolvers and proteans have the same logo tho)

[Zombie Centurion]

Stalwarts, Faithkeepers, Pilgrims and Evolvers only appear in the campaign mode.

[HardNRG]

Colonies can use the steam, but your main city can't if you went oil pumps.