I hate politics in real life, why would politics be fun in game?

[WolfHound]

In my experience politics has been more about drama instead of solving problems.

Maybe this has already been answered but I don't like the idea that my hyper efficient city is going to be ruined by people who can't stop squabbling over petty differences when there are far more important matters to deal with.

[WolfHound]

Originally posted by Dethrox:

I absolutely hate politics.. played the beta enjoyed the game as much as the first one.. try it if you dont like it you can always refund^^ politics in game are nothing like politics irl is what im trying to say :D

Thank you!

I'm probably just being paranoid, but, I guess we'll see.

[Jo Moéstar]

Originally posted by Xianli:

So you normally go all "vgfdgdsfrgdfrsbgdfzbx lmao", just like that, naturally? Oh, yes, so "witty" indeed

Hmmm, I sure wonder if there's a way to not be sober that doesn't require alcohol.

I guess it will remain a mystery.

...I don't even really have to try with you folks, do I? You just make yourselves look silly without me doing anything.

Originally posted by WolfHound:

Don't Argue with Jo.
I wasn't even trying to argue Jo until I fell into his trap.

Too laaaaaaaaaaaate~

The guy thinks that being witty is a full-time thing; how could I not snatch up that low-hanging fruit? I'm never gonna top my "Harris is basically a Karen" realization for him, so I've gotta find fresh fodder somewhere.

[BigM642]

Originally posted by WolfHound:

Originally posted by Jo Moéstar:

At this point I can only conclude that a very small but very obnoxiously noisy portion of the playerbase thinks Frostpunk is not about, say, human nature in the face of extinction, adaptations for survival, or how moral compromises stack up to turn us into unrecognizable versions of ourselves.

I hate it when people say Bro...

But seriously, Bro... Thats EXACTLY what Frostpunk ONE is about, NOT Frostpunk TWO

I can only conclude that you are not reading my text and are just reacting to me like one of the other guys who you argued with, and probably lost...

Originally posted by Jo Moéstar:

how moral compromises stack up to turn us into unrecognizable versions of ourselves

Not if Frostpunk 2 is JUST ABOUT politics and nothing else!. Again thats what Frostpunk ONE's politics were about!

Originally posted by Jo Moéstar:

say, human nature in the face of extinction, adaptations for survival

Have you actually watched any of the trailers? Its not about any of that anymore, its now about people's feelings and petty differences.

The storm is over... people should be rebuilding, but instead, they're infighting...

Exactly. The city survived what now? People get want there old lives back, people want a hopeful future, problem is they just dont agree. The theme of disagreements is really prescent throughout history, just with different topics. At the end of your day though its your money, but I would seriously recommend giving it a try when it goes on sale

[Carl Sagan]

As if there is not enough games on this saturated market just to click next, you start a political debate around a ♥♥♥♥ game, even though you hate politics. Betting 2$ you're from the US of Asses.

[dante]

Originally posted by Jo Moéstar:

At this point I can only conclude that a very small but very obnoxiously noisy portion of the playerbase thinks Frostpunk is not about, say, human nature in the face of extinction, adaptations for survival, or how moral compromises stack up to turn us into unrecognizable versions of ourselves. So why should we explore those concepts at all???

No, in their eyes, Frostpunk's themes are, uh... being an unchallenged dictator while placing buildings in snow, I guess? These are the same people who think Metal Gear isn't political, aren't they?

And you played metal gear because of the politics right? Get out of here

[Jo Moéstar]

Originally posted by dante:

And you played metal gear because of the politics right? Get out of here

You have no idea what I even said, do you?

You just respond like a muscle with an electric current run through it, blindly and reflexively. I cannot fathom what life must be like for you.

[=Snappy=]

Unlike IRL politics, presumably in the game the different factions ideas will be roughly equally effective. Not one relatively measured and practical vs. one completely juvenile and deranged.

[Jo Moéstar]

Originally posted by =Snappy=:

Unlike IRL politics, presumably in the game the different factions ideas will be roughly equally effective. Not one relatively measured and practical vs. one completely juvenile and deranged.

I'm personally hoping they each have pitfalls, but of a different nature.

Like, the Icebloods are roughly analogous to eco-fascists, so dealing with the inevitable death toll their "the weak must perish so the strong flourish" philosophy entails would be a challenge for anyone who allows (or encourages) them to gain power.

I imagine the extremist version of the Merchants will be a hyper-capitalist "the free market must control everything" faction, so dealing with inevitable labor disputes and being pushed into further displays of authoritarian force will have players questioning just how "libertarian" this philosophy really is.

Each faction has a price that must be paid for the ideals, which each of them studiously ignores. They just pop their fingers right into their earholes and go "blah blah, cannot hear you, my way will lead to utopia." Keeping them balanced and squabbling amongst each other might help you glean the good bits from each and keep the city running, but that balancing act could get expensive in the long run.

[Xianli]

Originally posted by Jo Moéstar:

Originally posted by Xianli:

So you normally go all "vgfdgdsfrgdfrsbgdfzbx lmao", just like that, naturally? Oh, yes, so "witty" indeed

...I don't even really have to try with you folks, do I? You just make yourselves look silly without me doing anything.

Yet you are the one giving posterity this memorable stuff like "lololololololol" and "vgfdgdsfrgdfrsbgdfzbx lmao" while bragging about your self-perceived "wits". A healthy advice: if you wanna see silly, just look at the mirror.

That being said, your points on FP2 seem thoughtful enough to me, so I guess even someone about as witty as Gomer Pyle can be right every now and then.

[Jo Moéstar]

Originally posted by Xianli:

Yet you are the one giving posterity this memorable stuff like "lololololololol" and "vgfdgdsfrgdfrsbgdfzbx lmao" while bragging about your self-perceived "wits". A healthy advice: if you wanna see silly, just look at the mirror.

That being said, your points on FP2 seem thoughtful enough to me, so I guess even someone about as witty as Gomer Pyle can be right every now and then.

So, let me get this straight:

Your position is that witty people can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever get intoxicated and cut loose? Am I getting that right?

That's ridiculous. I'm the wittiest here by default, because posts like yours seem to be the norm. It isn't a brag, not in the slightest. It is, if anything, a condemnation of the level of banter around these parts.

"teehee you were silly once so you're not at all clever" -someone who is clearly very intelligent and should be taken seriously!!

[Xianli]

Originally posted by Jo Moéstar:

Originally posted by Xianli:

Yet you are the one giving posterity this memorable stuff like "lololololololol" and "vgfdgdsfrgdfrsbgdfzbx lmao" while bragging about your self-perceived "wits". A healthy advice: if you wanna see silly, just look at the mirror.

That being said, your points on FP2 seem thoughtful enough to me, so I guess even someone about as witty as Gomer Pyle can be right every now and then.

So, let me get this straight:

Your position is that witty people can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever get intoxicated and cut loose? Am I getting that right?

Oh, but you said you weren't drunk when you posted that, so by your own admission that you were intoxicated it can only be concluded that you were on drugs. My apologies then, I didn't know. That's a serious problem you have there, friend. Have you tried getting some help?

[Jo Moéstar]

Originally posted by Xianli:

Oh, but you said you weren't drunk so I can only conclude you were on drugs when you posted that. My apologies then, I didn't know. That's a serious problem you have there, friend. Have you tried getting some help?

>he doesn't get high
man you just take L after L after L, huh?

Imagine trying to pick a fight to look smart and you pull this ♥♥♥♥. Do you not have a sense of embarrassme-
Oh, silly me, I just noticed you've been posting on the Concord forums; of course you have no sense of shame.

[Xianli]

Originally posted by Jo Moéstar:

Originally posted by Xianli:

Oh, but you said you weren't drunk so I can only conclude you were on drugs when you posted that. My apologies then, I didn't know. That's a serious problem you have there, friend. Have you tried getting some help?

>he doesn't get high
man you just take L after L after L, huh?

Imagine trying to pick a fight to look smart and you pull this ♥♥♥♥. Do you not have a sense of embarrassme-
Oh, silly me, I just noticed you've been posting on the Concord forums; of course you have no sense of shame.

Well, i didn't even bother to check your own posting history, and no way I'll lose even a minute in doing so, so it's plain clear who's getting all riled up and looking silly here and who isn't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Enough fun for today. At your expense, of course. Have a good one.

[Jo Moéstar]

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs. As soon as I pointed out how dumb your argument was, you switched tactics, and then that didn't work so you're pulling the "haha I'm not mad you're mad" trick. It's transparent. It's kinda sad. It's not fooling anyone.

So, seeeeeya. At least you're smart enough to know when you've got nothing new to add, unlike some other folks around here.

EDIT 2: Nah, I'm not gonna punch quite that low. I'll remove that last parting shot from the message. You've endured enough.

[TastyCool]

Originally posted by WolfHound:

In my experience politics has been more about drama instead of solving problems.

Maybe this has already been answered but I don't like the idea that my hyper efficient city is going to be ruined by people who can't stop squabbling over petty differences when there are far more important matters to deal with.

So its not the game for you. Just move along, you dont have to make a scene