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Factions... Do I need to keep them all happy?
I just discovered the Icebloods and decided to go all in with them. Then I discover that an opposing faction have just locked down two of my three districts, one of them with my research center, ffs. I think i need to reload an old save at this point as i can't do anything and voting is out of my favour to meet their demands.

Is the idea to make all of these wankers happy until I can create a heavy guard presence to counter these communists ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?
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adrien_perleflamme Oct 14, 2024 @ 11:15am 
No, you don't, but there can be consequences, depending on what you do. If you want to keep them all ok without too much tension, then yes, you do.
Discalceate Oct 14, 2024 @ 12:14pm 
It doesn't matter. In the final act, one of them will act up and drag down their opposite whether you have kept them happy or not.
adrien_perleflamme Oct 14, 2024 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Discalceate:
It doesn't matter. In the final act, one of them will act up and drag down their opposite whether you have kept them happy or not.

Yeah, but keeping them happy will make it very easy to go towards reconciliation. Otherwise, you'd probably have an easier way without reconciliation.
PSiOO2 Oct 14, 2024 @ 12:47pm 
One of the ways to cheese factions is to choose 1 favourite and 1 you're gonna hate on from day 1 and for the rest of the playthrough. That means you don't pass ANY laws that make them happy, don't research anything they want, and actively antagonize them - take their money, oppose them all the time.
Best case scenario would be that you chose to antagonize a faction that doesn't respond to hate by creating a radical subfaction (in my playthroughs poet-philosophy nerds never created a radical faction, despite being bullied for 30 years straight).
Most likely though they will radicalize and riot eventually. But by that point they will have like 6% of populace supporting them. That means any attempt at rioting can be quelled either by guards or counter-protest very quickly.
If you played your cards right, the faction you chose to favor will adore you, so even violent counter-protest won't do much to worsen their opinion of you.
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Adeptus Lebowski Oct 14, 2024 @ 1:13pm 
i was just looking for a sort of N a zi faction that would have common sense values in getting stuff done etc. I hate all the woke borderless values and let anyone in etc. Iceblood peeps seemed a good way to go.
Xianli Oct 15, 2024 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by Adeptus Lebowski:
i was just looking for a sort of N a zi faction that would have common sense values in getting stuff done etc. I hate all the woke borderless values and let anyone in etc. Iceblood peeps seemed a good way to go.
Even better to get Overseers (Progress/Tradition/Merit). Their abilities to boost production skyrocket your economy, and their paltry oposition are the Bohemian faction, a bunch of woke hippies who haven't taken a bath since 1886 and bring nothing good to the table.
Adeptus Lebowski Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by Xianli:
Originally posted by Adeptus Lebowski:
i was just looking for a sort of N a zi faction that would have common sense values in getting stuff done etc. I hate all the woke borderless values and let anyone in etc. Iceblood peeps seemed a good way to go.
Even better to get Overseers (Progress/Tradition/Merit). Their abilities to boost production skyrocket your economy, and their paltry oposition are the Bohemian faction, a bunch of woke hippies who haven't taken a bath since 1886 and bring nothing good to the table.
Haha, thanks for this reply. Are Overseers a main or sub faction? I might even up the difficulty from Officer if they are that good ;)
Xianli Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:45am 
They're a secondary faction, one that spawns later according to your first choices. Just start a game with Foragers/Machinists, try to get Merchants as the randomly assigned faction, then enact Paid Essentials, Family Apprenticeship and City Development Effort and follow the trend of M/P/T as you see fit. By week 60 or so these bad boys will form, followed by those Bohemians nutters who want to let everyone in and give everything away for free. Have fun bullying them for the next few decades while the Overseers boost your economy to the Moon and beyond. If you plan to go for Captain difficulty, they're the best to take along the ride.

Second best combination IMHO are Venturers (Merit/Reason/Progress) as opposed to Menders (who are not great, but nowhere as obnoxious as the Bohemians). If you get them to be happy they'll keep investing in the City at every turn. Don't be surprised to have several thousand Heatstamps in your treasury before you know it if you get on their good side.
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Adeptus Lebowski Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:49am 
Originally posted by Xianli:
They're a secondary faction, one that spawns later according to your first choices. Just start a game with Foragers/Machinists, try to get Merchants as the randomly assigned faction, then enact Paid Essentials, Family Apprenticeship and City Development Effort and follow the trend of M/P/T as you see fit. By week 60 or so these bad boys will form, followed by those Bohemians nutters who want to let everyone in and give everything away for free. Have fun bullying them for the next few decades while the Overseers bost your economy to the Moon and beyond. If you plan to go for Captain difficulty, they're the best to take along the ride.

Second best combination IMHO are Venturers (Merit/Reason/Progress) as opposed to Menders (who are not great, but nowhere as obnoxious as the Bohemians). If you get them to be happy they'll keep investing in the City at every turn. Don't be surprised to have several thousand Heatstamps in your treasury before you know it if you get on their good side.
thanks very much pal. Maybe I'll send those Bohemians on the long walk... ;)

I've loading up a game right now as i write, with your options selected. I will either go Windswept Peaks or Creator map. What would you recommend for fun?
Xianli Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by Adeptus Lebowski:
Originally posted by Xianli:
They're a secondary faction, one that spawns later according to your first choices. Just start a game with Foragers/Machinists, try to get Merchants as the randomly assigned faction, then enact Paid Essentials, Family Apprenticeship and City Development Effort and follow the trend of M/P/T as you see fit. By week 60 or so these bad boys will form, followed by those Bohemians nutters who want to let everyone in and give everything away for free. Have fun bullying them for the next few decades while the Overseers bost your economy to the Moon and beyond. If you plan to go for Captain difficulty, they're the best to take along the ride.

Second best combination IMHO are Venturers (Merit/Reason/Progress) as opposed to Menders (who are not great, but nowhere as obnoxious as the Bohemians). If you get them to be happy they'll keep investing in the City at every turn. Don't be surprised to have several thousand Heatstamps in your treasury before you know it if you get on their good side.
thanks very much pal. Maybe I'll send those Bohemians on the long walk... ;)

I've loading up a game right now as i write, with your options selected. I will either go Windswept Peaks or Creator map. What would you recommend for fun?
Happy to help! Hope you like the result =) My favorite map is Horizon, since all that open space leaves plenty of room for planning and already has oil in it, but you'll have to frostbreak quite a bit. Windswept is a good starting choice. Enjoy!
Last edited by Xianli; Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:52am
Adeptus Lebowski Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by Xianli:
Originally posted by Adeptus Lebowski:
thanks very much pal. Maybe I'll send those Bohemians on the long walk... ;)

I've loading up a game right now as i write, with your options selected. I will either go Windswept Peaks or Creator map. What would you recommend for fun?
Happy to help! Hope you like the result =) My favorite map is Horizon, since all that open space leaves plenty of room for planning and already has oil in it, but you'll have to frostbreak quite a bit. Winswept is a good starting choice. Enjoy!
Cheers dude
Xianli Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by Adeptus Lebowski:
Originally posted by Xianli:
Happy to help! Hope you like the result =) My favorite map is Horizon, since all that open space leaves plenty of room for planning and already has oil in it, but you'll have to frostbreak quite a bit. Winswept is a good starting choice. Enjoy!
Cheers dude
Gal, and any time =)
Adeptus Lebowski Oct 15, 2024 @ 4:32am 
Pardon me ;)
Adeptus Lebowski Oct 15, 2024 @ 6:54am 
Icebloods and technocrats have formed. Now I'm a sad panda... :(

I'm still new to the sequel and probably could have done things better to allow Overseers, oh well. Unless you can have more than 5 factions? If so, perhaps I can get them after all?
Originally posted by Xianli:
Originally posted by Adeptus Lebowski:
i was just looking for a sort of N a zi faction that would have common sense values in getting stuff done etc. I hate all the woke borderless values and let anyone in etc. Iceblood peeps seemed a good way to go.
Even better to get Overseers (Progress/Tradition/Merit). Their abilities to boost production skyrocket your economy, and their paltry oposition are the Bohemian faction, a bunch of woke hippies who haven't taken a bath since 1886 and bring nothing good to the table.

Bohemians are by far the single most useful faction in the game. Their ability helps keep relations good with all the other factions. Having all 5 factions devoted to you regardless of what laws you enact or buildings you place doesn't sound useful? No strife, no conflict, and it even gets you the Overseer's piddly, trivial production bonus as the cherry on top. Piddly and trivial? Hell yes; it's nothing compared to the production efficiency bonus you get by building stimulant factories, which stack, and which anyone can build regardless of factions.
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Date Posted: Oct 14, 2024 @ 10:25am
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