Its to expensive

[Lyexer]

If the size of it is anything like the First Game 45€ is way to expensive IMO.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von derExperte:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spiritos:

Not about affordability, it's about common sense been practicle with your own money.

If common sense were the issue, and not trollbaiting by comparing two completely different games in very different genres, then he would spend his time earning money and getting ahead in life instead of wasting it on here. The price is perfectly fine if the game is as good as the first one quality-wise and bigger overall, which I assume it will be. I mean Steam is filled with whining about sky high AAA prices, microtransactions and bad behaviour by devs/pubs, but then something AA with a mid-budget price comes along and the game's forum still gets flooded by clowntrolls. Y'all are hopeless and deserve the hellscape gaming is slowly becoming.

Stop thinking about my money. It's not your business. I'm working and earn enough.

[derExperte]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Сэр DeezPlaY von Pioplopka:

Stop thinking about my money. It's not your business. I'm working and earn enough.

The fact that it takes you about 30 seconds to respond to any of my posts tells a very different story. So does ignoring all my other points including you coming in here whining about the price of a mid-budget game that you apparently don't care about and making inane comparisons just to elicit reactions. That's a poor man's game. And so is claiming to earn 'enough', always sad to see such complacency.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von derExperte:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Сэр DeezPlaY von Pioplopka:

Stop thinking about my money. It's not your business. I'm working and earn enough.

The fact that it takes you about 30 seconds to respond to my posts tells a very different story. So does ignoring all my other points including you coming in here whining about the price of a mid-budget game that you apparently don't care about and making inane comparisons just to elicit reactions. That's a poor man's game. And so is claiming to earn 'enough', always sad to see such complacency.

Timezone +3 (Moscow), 11 PM. What's wrong?

I have more than 400 games on my wishlist. If I think that the game is too expensive, do I have to buy it, even if I earn enough?

[derExperte]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Сэр DeezPlaY von Pioplopka:

Timezone +3 (Moscow), 11 PM. What's wrong?

I have more than 400 games on my wishlist. If I think that the game is too expensive, do I have to buy it, even if I earn enough?

So you're in Russia where Frostpunk 2 costs ~$20 while Erdtree is ~$26 (according to SteamDB). They're not at all the same price like you claimed yesterday plus you get a hefty discount compared to the regular US/EU prices for both. F2 is more than half off. Yet you're complaining. Say no more, I think we're done here.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von derExperte:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Сэр DeezPlaY von Pioplopka:

Timezone +3 (Moscow), 11 PM. What's wrong?

I have more than 400 games on my wishlist. If I think that the game is too expensive, do I have to buy it, even if I earn enough?

So you're in Russia where Frostpunk 2 costs ~$20 while Erdtree is ~$26 (according to SteamDB). They're not at all the same price like you claimed yesterday plus you get a hefty discount compared to the regular US/EU prices for both. F2 is more than half off. Yet you're complaining. Say no more, I think we're done here. :sweetunicorn:

Oh my. 1900 rubles vs 2400.

So what?

It's still very expensive for this type of game IMO.

Shadow of Erdtree deserves that price, but FP2 is not.

"Say no more. I think we're done here". Nice way to end the conversation.

[Swervy]

8 INCHES.. FIGHT ME.

[CupCupBaconBox]

It's hardly any money at all.

[Gruff]

Regardless of the childish replies. Why is it priced so expensive? Developers, do you think this is the best price to make the most money at? Of course a lower price will sell more copies of the game but that means you need to sell more copies to make the same money as having it at a higher price
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For me, I look at this as a game you are not that confident in. Hence get as much money from pre sales as possible knowing that within a short time you will run a discount on it (I'd guess 20%) which would put it at a price most people would pay.

I'd say it's a good business model if you are doing this. Regardless it's not a lot of money, but I'll still wait until you discount it because I have patience

[Hellenic Born]

The minimum wages in the continet of europe is around 1000 euro. 19 countries have less than 1000 euro. Nonetheless that makes 1000 / 25 = 40 euros a day.
For someone to buy this game he (or his father) has to work more than 1 day and if he has a brother than 2 day work.
You might say everything is expensive not only a game and i agree. But to work a day long to get a game i didnt see yet not gonna happen.

A game that costs more than 1 day salary is expensive.

edit: statistics from eurostat
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Minimum_wages,_January_2024_and_January_2014_(levels,_in_%E2%82%AC_per_month_and_average_annual_growth,_in_%25)_.png

[Valion]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hellenic Born:

The minimum wages in the continet of europe is around 1000 euro. 19 countries have less than 1000 euro. Nonetheless that makes 1000 / 25 = 40 euros a day.
For someone to buy this game he (or his father) has to work more than 1 day and if he has a brother than 2 day work.
You might say everything is expensive not only a game and i agree. But to work a day long to get a game i didnt see yet not gonna happen.

A game that costs more than 1 day salary is expensive.

edit: statistics from eurostat
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Minimum_wages,_January_2024_and_January_2014_(levels,_in_%E2%82%AC_per_month_and_average_annual_growth,_in_%25)_.png

then explain the price being $70+ in Australia now

[Hellenic Born]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Valion:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hellenic Born:

The minimum wages in the continet of europe is around 1000 euro. 19 countries have less than 1000 euro. Nonetheless that makes 1000 / 25 = 40 euros a day.
For someone to buy this game he (or his father) has to work more than 1 day and if he has a brother than 2 day work.
You might say everything is expensive not only a game and i agree. But to work a day long to get a game i didnt see yet not gonna happen.

A game that costs more than 1 day salary is expensive.

edit: statistics from eurostat
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=File:Minimum_wages,_January_2024_and_January_2014_(levels,_in_%E2%82%AC_per_month_and_average_annual_growth,_in_%25)_.png

then explain the price being $70+ in Australia now

In europe its 67,00 euro. Try to understand what you read. For australia, if u r in australia look it up yourself, maybe australia is richer or poorer or whatever, that does not matter to europe.

[Valion]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hellenic Born:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Valion:

then explain the price being $70+ in Australia now

In europe its 67,00 euro. Try to understand what you read. For australia, if u r in australia look it up yourself, maybe australia is richer or poorer or whatever, that does not matter to europe.

breaking it down my average savings from my wage after i pay for food, fuel and put money aside for bills is just under $50 a week your "it's only a days work" BS doesn't work when you remember that that people have to actually live outside of games and i guess unlike yourself don't just have expendable income flowing in that we can just dismiss people concerned about the price of a game because you can cite some bad maths

[Hellenic Born]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Valion:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hellenic Born:

In europe its 67,00 euro. Try to understand what you read. For australia, if u r in australia look it up yourself, maybe australia is richer or poorer or whatever, that does not matter to europe.

breaking it down my average savings from my wage after i pay for food, fuel and put money aside for bills is just under $50 a week your "it's only a days work" BS doesn't work when you remember that that people have to actually live outside of games and i guess unlike yourself don't just have expendable income flowing in that we can just dismiss people concerned about the price of a game because you can cite some bad maths

eurostat is not bad maths. What you do does not matter at all because u r 1 person, what eurostat says matters everything because its the resume of all persons in europe.
A game that costs more than 1 day salary is expensive.

[Valion]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hellenic Born:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Valion:

breaking it down my average savings from my wage after i pay for food, fuel and put money aside for bills is just under $50 a week your "it's only a days work" BS doesn't work when you remember that that people have to actually live outside of games and i guess unlike yourself don't just have expendable income flowing in that we can just dismiss people concerned about the price of a game because you can cite some bad maths

eurostat is not bad maths. What you do does not matter at all because u r 1 person, what eurostat says matters everything because its the resume of all persons in europe.
A game that costs more than 1 day salary is expensive.

you are either extremely stupid or extremely privileged if you think if you think it only costs "1 day salary" people are not paid by the day, people like myself are often paid weekly or biweekly, we don't end the day and then get told "here is day salary, glory to erurostat" which means we have to make that money last the whole WEEK, if someone slashes my tires and they cost $40 to replace i don't go "oh no that is 1 day salary" i got "oh Christ i have to now chose if i EAT until my next payday or risk my car running out of fuel until i get paid next"

[Hellenic Born]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Valion:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hellenic Born:

eurostat is not bad maths. What you do does not matter at all because u r 1 person, what eurostat says matters everything because its the resume of all persons in europe.
A game that costs more than 1 day salary is expensive.

you are either extremely stupid or extremely privileged if you think if you think it only costs "1 day salary" people are not paid by the day, people like myself are often paid weekly or biweekly, we don't end the day and then get told "here is day salary, glory to erurostat" which means we have to make that money last the whole WEEK, if someone slashes my tires and they cost $40 to replace i don't go "oh no that is 1 day salary" i got "oh Christ i have to now chose if i EAT until my next payday or risk my car running out of fuel until i get paid next"

Thank you for calling me stupid etc, that shows that you just lost it and proving my point. Try to understand statistics, i didnt say people get payed on a dayly basis, regardless if you get paid weekly or montly or whatever, statistics calculate it also for a day. Example: if you get paid weekly 500 euro than that means that you get 500 euros divided by 5 days of work 100 euros a day. The rest what you write is just worthless ranting. If you have any arguments come back, and thanks for proving me right.