I hate leveling

[iRQ Toons]

In every MMO i've ever played, From everquest, to dark age of camelot, to wow, to warhammer, to tera, to FF14, and all the rest. This game was so refreshing to have leveling be just a minor part of the game that doesn't consume the first month of playing. Oh this quest wants me to gather 6 wolf pelts, every other game would have me killing 20+ wolves in hopes of getting 6 pelts to drop. This game I kill 3 and each of them dropped 2. Oh go gather the 10 flower petals. Same thing, go pick 3 flowers and get 10 petals instead of picking 3000 flowers. And don't even get me started on the fast travel system in this game. Excluding sailing two islands this game has the most top tier of fast travel systems...

That is all. I'm excited to see what end game raids and abyssal dungeons bring.

[lollars]

dont worry if you have your first lvl 50 you can skip 2 chars with the power pass + every 50er you can skip another at your stronghold for 600g (it takes 8h)

[MerlinCross]

Hyperbolic. OR done in bad mmos or poorly designed one.

Leveling isn't as slow but it feels far more dead and wasted time than others. And I'm 30 hours in and it sounds like I still have another 10-20 to get to end game. A 50 hour leveling system isn't something I would say is fast or good.

"OH BUT it's FASTER than other GAMES"

And? Other games I tend to have time to be invested in the world or characters, and have the feeling of 'OH I want to go out and look at X or go do Y real quick.' This game? Everyone I've seen or talked to has been "Get to end game. That's it".

I don't feel stronger at all, I haven't really changed anything about my character, I barely know any character's names beyond their titles.... Oh but I have to get to end game before it gets 'good'.

I'm probably gonna slam into a wall of grind and just go "That's enough for me" because everyone told me to rush and when that wall goes up I'll have next to no connection to the game at all and just go "WHELP, that was fun, I'm out".

That or difficulty spike that needs to be skill or gear solved and the game hasn't given you the time to do so.

[black_power_all_day_son!]

i long to be so easily entertained :*(

[Harley]

Originally posted by MerlinCross:

Hyperbolic. OR done in bad mmos or poorly designed one.

Leveling isn't as slow but it feels far more dead and wasted time than others. And I'm 30 hours in and it sounds like I still have another 10-20 to get to end game. A 50 hour leveling system isn't something I would say is fast or good.

"OH BUT it's FASTER than other GAMES"

And? Other games I tend to have time to be invested in the world or characters, and have the feeling of 'OH I want to go out and look at X or go do Y real quick.' This game? Everyone I've seen or talked to has been "Get to end game. That's it".

I don't feel stronger at all, I haven't really changed anything about my character, I barely know any character's names beyond their titles.... Oh but I have to get to end game before it gets 'good'.

I'm probably gonna slam into a wall of grind and just go "That's enough for me" because everyone told me to rush and when that wall goes up I'll have next to no connection to the game at all and just go "WHELP, that was fun, I'm out".

That or difficulty spike that needs to be skill or gear solved and the game hasn't given you the time to do so.

I'll never forget when Armen decided to kill steal that giant worm from me. That asshat.

[Lunacy]

yknow WoW only takes like 9-12 hours to level up, and then another 10-13 to get through the current expansion leveling. Far less time spent trying to rush the main quests in this game, and a lot more fun on the way up.
You only have to kill 3 wolves for 6 pelts in lost ark because kills give like 2 exp and the quest to kill them gives 12000 or something, its pointless to make you kill anything in this game. There's a reason games like Path of Exile give the majority of exp through kills, because that's the fun part.

[md]

you get two free skips after level 50 your first character plus you can spend 600 gold after to knowledge transfer all your other characters to 50 but gold is scarce. However, I gotta disagree. Saying leveling sucks on this game, you should also be saying all other MMO leveling is ass because they are. Because this is the "popular game" right now, you don't have to nit pick it to the max lmao. The game is very good. almost 140 hours and more to go for me.

[815|Shouldabeen]

It's kind of funny. I find LA's leveling to be so much more faster paced than other MMOs, but at the same time I find it incredibly more boring. It's probably because most of the stories are just bad (Luterra and Annika were okay), and it just feels like your actions don't have any impact as you're leveling. Maybe it's just the jaded view of someone who's played thru quite a few mmos. But, yeah, didn't care for it. Endgame is okay so far, but not a fan of islands. I didn't like raiding in WoW because it meant committing to being in game at certain times, so by the same note I don't like islands for the same reason.

[MerlinCross]

Originally posted by Harley:

I'll never forget when Armen decided to kill steal that giant worm from me. That asshat.

Mmos have a tendency of not letting your character do the THING you really want them to do in cutscenes. Honsetly here it would have been nice if they gave you the binary option of "Attack or Wait" and still have Armen come in you just get like a bonus to your courage or whatever to reflect your choice.

I didn't mind Armen that much actually, I figured he'd be like the guiding person or stable character.... NOPE he bounces.

[MerlinCross]

Originally posted by md:

you get two free skips after level 50 your first character plus you can spend 600 gold after to knowledge transfer all your other characters to 50 but gold is scarce. However, I gotta disagree. Saying leveling sucks on this game, you should also be saying all other MMO leveling is ass because they are. Because this is the "popular game" right now, you don't have to nit pick it to the max lmao. The game is very good. almost 140 hours and more to go for me.

Keyword is, After.

I'm in desert and I don't know how much more of this I have in me. FF14 for as slow as it was, at least had a backbone of a plot to be built off of, at least for me, and a bit more freedom with it's "oh let me check this place out", or just go off and do side content for a bit(Look I like Triple Triad, shush). And more to the point, because you grew and changed on your way to end game, progression felt tied to your journey. The game wasn't gated to enjoyment at end game.

"OH you're just Saying That cause you're an FF14 fanboy, go back to your catgirl waifus"

I have other examples; GW2 to me suffered from a similar issue of rotating characters and a largely DEAD world given that everyone just spams world bosses(Hmmm, familiar) for their stuff till end game. Why do anything that doesn't put your closer to end game? Because it's there? Yeah and not routed into OR Balanced around the rush it became(COUGH Dungeons, COUGH COUGH).

Another Korean game, Dungeon Fighter Online, also has this problem Lost Ark has. Just kinda there story , but due to how it progresses with 3 class upgrades, and a LOT more skills learned on the trip up, it does feel more like you're getting stronger. Your first class upgrade in this game is.... at level 50?

I admit I haven't played many MMOs. But this leveling just feels so.... dead and wasted. End game is the name of the game from what everyone on the forums tells me. I just wish I felt like I had actually DONE anything in the 30+ hours I did trying to get there cause I still feel like I'm back at level 10.