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Flamingbabypunch 2021 年 11 月 7 日 上午 4:29
What's even the point in buying a PS5 anymore?
Getting one, to begin with, seems like an impossible task due to scalpers.

The next God of War game is a PS4 game.

There are no decent games on the system to justify getting the console.

Sony are starting to get ridiculous with their censorship for ports to their console making them inferior versions to one on other systems.

The console itself looks way too big and cumbersome to fit on a set-up. Plus it looks like an absolute dust magnet.

Naughty Dog has destroyed their reputation with The Last of Us 2.

And now Sony is starting to put their exclusives to PC. Hell, why even get the new God of War Ragnarök when we can just wait for a better version to release here?
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Poor Bastard 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 7:40 
引用自 V3ntilator
more Sony exclusive will come to Microsoft Windows. cope.

Funny thing is that Sony is going bigtime on Windows instead of Linux in 2022.
After all Microsoft owns Windows and Xbox.
Also. Sony will later use Microsoft Azure for Game Streaming.

Why are Sony so f*****d in their lame heads that they can't make their own things anymore, but supporting their biggest competitor instead?

At this point Sony is just a f****ng laughable outdated dinosaur.

Competition isn't always the most profitable strategy.

For example, the top semiconductor foundry in the world, TSMC, will be producing 3nm chips for their rival Intel, who is having trouble making their own.
A5HEN 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 7:41 
引用自 V I D A L
PS4 was no different in it's first year or two. It took quite a bit to take of and quality exclusives to come out... but when it did, it was awesome.

However, now I'm on the expectation that the PS5 exclusives will also come to PC eventually... so I might not need a PS5 anyway.

引用自 Flamingbabypunch
Naughty Dog has destroyed their reputation with The Last of Us 2.
Don't be silly. Just because a minority of angry people were loud about it, it doesn't mean anything. The game got extremely high reviews and sold very well. Even if you were mad by the direction the story took, you can't deny it was a very well made game with excellent gameplay and design.
Last of Us is a story game, so it will most likely ne judged on the story more than anything else
RedRiot193 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 9:33 
引用自 Stoibs
引用自 RedRiot193
You sound like you never played the game.
It was my GOTY :conwayshrug:
Playing through it again when the 60fps patch came last year was icing on the cake.

I'll freely admit to liking the story in the first one much more, but I saw absolutely nothing wrong with how the sequel was presented. (or god forbid, anything that warranted literal death threats to the cast and crew..:steamfacepalm:)

Personally I just think a lot of people didn't like having their cliche black and white 'Good Guy/Bad Guy' representations in media challenged. I loved the ending and how much I grew to love certain characters while at the same time how much I grew to absolutely resent and hate Ellie through the lens of different perspectives.

It's the Walter White/Rick Sanchez problem all over again.
You aren't actually meant to root for horrible people like Joel, who by his own admission did a lot of messed up stuff in the 20 year timeskip; too many people had him on a pedestal though and couldn't see past that.

"You aren't actually meant to root for horrible people like Joel" You say that why? Because he killed a random npc to save a girl who was like a daughter to him? We don't see the 20 years. It's naive to say you'll be a better person in times where even the current government is killing people with little hesitation and keep them hostage. And those 20 years is exactly why what happen to him made zero sense. Joel isn't stupid yet every character from the first game somehow dropped their IQ.

The other perspectives was literally the biggest problem with the game. Joel was a big fan favorite and playing as Abs the protein roid junky was just an insult to the players. If they didn't jump the gun at the start and not false advertise joel was going to be in the game longer people wouldn't have been as pissed. And the ending was garbage. "It's okay for abby to get revenge but not ellie" That's gibberish writing.

Dude death threats happen in all of media. It's such a minor few of people that do it that it doesn't even come close to 1% of people that played the game. Not excusing it of course. But really that happens with everything it's not even news.
Alabeo 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 9:37 
引用自 V I D A L
PS4 was no different in it's first year or two. It took quite a bit to take of and quality exclusives to come out... but when it did, it was awesome.

However, now I'm on the expectation that the PS5 exclusives will also come to PC eventually... so I might not need a PS5 anyway.

引用自 Flamingbabypunch
Naughty Dog has destroyed their reputation with The Last of Us 2.
Don't be silly. Just because a minority of angry people were loud about it, it doesn't mean anything. The game got extremely high reviews and sold very well. Even if you were mad by the direction the story took, you can't deny it was a very well made game with excellent gameplay and design.
You have zero credibility after you defended GTA Trilogy Remaster before release on old GTA steam forums.
最后由 Alabeo 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 9:38
Knud den Store 🧙‍♂ 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 9:48 
The 3050ti is going to come up soon and it will positively kill all interest in console gaming.
Sony will never beat the scalper market, Microsoft has no exclusives and Nintendo games run better on any PC.

This is why its called Master Race Bahbee
Ghoulie 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 9:53 
I'm sad Sony have some crazy deal with Marvel they have Spider-Man exclusive and more Marvel games coming from Insomniac Ganmes like Wolverine.
For me personally is like now not worth to get PS5 anymore, Now is just waiting, I;m sure coming much more PS games to PC after HZD, GoW, Uncharted 4.
Stoibs 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 10:02 
引用自 RedRiot193
"You aren't actually meant to root for horrible people like Joel" You say that why? Because he killed a random npc to save a girl who was like a daughter to him? We don't see the 20 years. It's naive to say you'll be a better person in times where even the current government is killing people with little hesitation and keep them hostage. And those 20 years is exactly why what happen to him made zero sense. Joel isn't stupid yet every character from the first game somehow dropped their IQ.

The other perspectives was literally the biggest problem with the game. Joel was a big fan favorite and playing as Abs the protein roid junky was just an insult to the players. If they didn't jump the gun at the start and not false advertise joel was going to be in the game longer people wouldn't have been as pissed. And the ending was garbage. "It's okay for abby to get revenge but not ellie" That's gibberish writing.

The irony of calling them a 'Random NPC' but claiming that *I* haven't played the game?
:lunar2020thinkingtiger:
That's part of that perspective thing and seeing a situation from two sides of the coin.
(nevermind the fact that.. hey you've got the fate of humanity on the table here, maybe some rationalization is in order before we go full Rambo)

I often hear the 'Joel was dumb' argument but I don't get it. They're in some ski lodge type thing with hundreds of infected pouring through the walls. They don't exactly have time to sit down and debate what to do next and there's atleast safe haven being presented to them within a few minutes riding distance. How would you have written that scene?
Joel totally talks about the stuff he did during the 20 years also, like laying the same trap that was sprung on them in Pittsburgh and killing innocents. (One such ambush and slaughter from his past was originally going to be Abby's connection and motivation in an early draft)

I never felt misled or 'pissed'. I thought it was known and common knowledge that we'd be playing as Ellie for the bulk of the game, not Joel. This naturally led to speculation about what may happen as a result. (Playing Abs on the other hand was totally a pleasant surprise!)
Though it's hard to chat about this stuff and the nuance involved when honestly I feel as though I'm talking to someone who doesn't have an open mind and just wants to argue ('protein roid junky'..? Really?)

It's not ok for anyone to keep the cycle of killing going indefinitely because where do you draw the line? Both have a case of being the wronged party, hence why the dual narrative was so effective to some of us since it did its job perfectly of just making you think from one side until you actually got the full picture and had context.

Also you seem to be glossing over a lot of the rampaging and torture that Ellie did in regards to 'who gets to have revenge'.. if there's some cosmic scale of 'justice' somewhere then it's a godamn mess and all over the place from *both* sides, though skewed a little in Abby's favour honestly..
Jerricky Jebates (已封禁) 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 10:07 
demon souls, plus playing everything at 60fps 4k like ghost of tsushima. yes all these games will eventually come to pc, but I aint waiting 4 years after they launch to play them my man.
cheetah1546 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 10:08 
引用自 Knud den Store
The 3050ti is going to come up soon and it will positively kill all interest in console gaming.
Sony will never beat the scalper market, Microsoft has no exclusives and Nintendo games run better on any PC.

This is why its called Master Race Bahbee

why play a nintendo game on pc
leopunkhrcore 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 10:08 
well play the game 1 year first, is the only reason, all the exclusives of ps5 eventually will end on PC, so yeah depend of you, for me im fine waiting 1 year or even more
Poor Bastard 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 10:10 
引用自 cheetah1546
引用自 Knud den Store
The 3050ti is going to come up soon and it will positively kill all interest in console gaming.
Sony will never beat the scalper market, Microsoft has no exclusives and Nintendo games run better on any PC.

This is why its called Master Race Bahbee

why play a nintendo game on pc
Because they don't run at 4K on the Switch.
Hollow Man 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 10:13 
There's no reason to buy a ps5 and I say this as a fan of playstation. My ps4 is collecting dust right now in my closet. I do still use my ps3 and ps2 for football games that you can't play anywhere else. I was greatly disappointed when I discovered the ps5 wouldn't have any backwards compatibility except with ps4 games. I will never buy a ps5. The only reason I still even have my ps4 is it's a launch model from 2013 and I like to keep that as they're hard to find these days. It's a piece of gaming history in a way. PC gaming is the way to go only reason to buy a console is to play a game that is specific to it like for some older consoles, or if you can't afford a good computer.
Stoibs 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 10:16 
引用自 Chris J
Ahhh the fanboyism is strong with you. Its funny how you guys trying to downplay Sony and saying "No point of a PS5 Anymore" when you fail to mention Xbox actually being the most pointless console to date lol. Most Sony Titles will be years out
This right here is facts.

I got a cheap secondhand Series S months back, then I realized that either everything or atleast 99% of anything I was interested in was on PC gamepass anyway :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

I ended up chucking it on an early model 'dumb' TV in a spare room here and am using it to run streaming services off of.. so it's a nice overly expensive chromecast/paperweight at the moment :steammocking:
Jerricky Jebates (已封禁) 2022 年 1 月 14 日 下午 11:11 
引用自 Chris J
引用自 TrippyTaka
demon souls, plus playing everything at 60fps 4k like ghost of tsushima. yes all these games will eventually come to pc, but I aint waiting 4 years after they launch to play them my man.


So now Your an Ultrawide user with 144hz Screen and happy playing at 60fps 4K lol

I mean I got a ps5 for their early exclusives but yeah when I can't get it on PC I am forced to play it at 4k 60 on my 65 inch oled. It's not bad but not as great as playing on PC.
RedRiot193 2022 年 1 月 15 日 上午 12:04 
引用自 Stoibs
引用自 RedRiot193
"You aren't actually meant to root for horrible people like Joel" You say that why? Because he killed a random npc to save a girl who was like a daughter to him? We don't see the 20 years. It's naive to say you'll be a better person in times where even the current government is killing people with little hesitation and keep them hostage. And those 20 years is exactly why what happen to him made zero sense. Joel isn't stupid yet every character from the first game somehow dropped their IQ.

The other perspectives was literally the biggest problem with the game. Joel was a big fan favorite and playing as Abs the protein roid junky was just an insult to the players. If they didn't jump the gun at the start and not false advertise joel was going to be in the game longer people wouldn't have been as pissed. And the ending was garbage. "It's okay for abby to get revenge but not ellie" That's gibberish writing.

The irony of calling them a 'Random NPC' but claiming that *I* haven't played the game?
:lunar2020thinkingtiger:
That's part of that perspective thing and seeing a situation from two sides of the coin.
(nevermind the fact that.. hey you've got the fate of humanity on the table here, maybe some rationalization is in order before we go full Rambo)

I often hear the 'Joel was dumb' argument but I don't get it. They're in some ski lodge type thing with hundreds of infected pouring through the walls. They don't exactly have time to sit down and debate what to do next and there's atleast safe haven being presented to them within a few minutes riding distance. How would you have written that scene?
Joel totally talks about the stuff he did during the 20 years also, like laying the same trap that was sprung on them in Pittsburgh and killing innocents. (One such ambush and slaughter from his past was originally going to be Abby's connection and motivation in an early draft)

I never felt misled or 'pissed'. I thought it was known and common knowledge that we'd be playing as Ellie for the bulk of the game, not Joel. This naturally led to speculation about what may happen as a result. (Playing Abs on the other hand was totally a pleasant surprise!)
Though it's hard to chat about this stuff and the nuance involved when honestly I feel as though I'm talking to someone who doesn't have an open mind and just wants to argue ('protein roid junky'..? Really?)

It's not ok for anyone to keep the cycle of killing going indefinitely because where do you draw the line? Both have a case of being the wronged party, hence why the dual narrative was so effective to some of us since it did its job perfectly of just making you think from one side until you actually got the full picture and had context.

Also you seem to be glossing over a lot of the rampaging and torture that Ellie did in regards to 'who gets to have revenge'.. if there's some cosmic scale of 'justice' somewhere then it's a godamn mess and all over the place from *both* sides, though skewed a little in Abby's favour honestly..

Yes a random npc. You played the game good for you. That's exactly what feels forced. It could have been done much better. And Abby revenge was never about saving the "human race" but for her dad who was so quick to put another girl that was his daughters age down. So if it was your daughter or "daughter" you would be okay with it? Ellie wasn't even consulted before hand about it. A way to avoid the situation would have been to let ellie decide and let her calm joel down as goodbye. But they messed up. And also there was no guarantee it would have worked. There's a cure then what? Go around poking clickers? That's not how it works. Never mind the dozens of cannibals, religious cults, and gangs there are.

You don't buy it because you chose not to. Joel for 20 years survived with very few people he trusted. He was entirely not trusting of others and knowing that he's done some ♥♥♥♥ in the past his brother just drops his name while allowing himself to be cornered? Come on dude you've got to be kidding me. How would I have written it? I would have had the player playing as joel in that section. You save abby, and make your way back to tommys place. They had checkpoint set up they can do it. Then set up at tommys place where she finds out his name, but can't do anything about it yet. See? Writings not so hard is it?

Look up the trailers bro. I'm not arguing this one. They lied and false advertised that Joel was going to be in the game a lot longer.

" It's not ok for anyone to keep the cycle of killing going indefinitely because where do you draw the line?" Literally the last one alive was abby. Not only did she take Joel from her. She took her best friends babys dad, handicapped tommy and took the last gift that Joel her playing guitar by biting off her fingers. Why would that stop ellie? She's KILLED HUNDREDS of people by that point. Women, men, dogs, some of them might have had kids or been pregnant (You like to throw around perspective well there's some perspective) who did nothing to her. But abby is a no go? Please.
最后由 RedRiot193 编辑于; 2022 年 1 月 15 日 上午 12:06
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