Entropy : Zero 2

Entropy : Zero 2

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Virake 2022 年 8 月 27 日 下午 3:12
Where's the actual media storm?
Seriously, what's going on? Why are none of the big name YouTubers or Twitch streamers doing coverage for this game?
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calembredaine 2022 年 9 月 7 日 下午 4:42 
引用自 Virake
calembredaine, it sounds like you're just not particularly impressed with EZ2. which is fine, to each their own, but keep in mind that the rest of us really love this game. for me it was a highlight of the year, if not several years. I've lost count of how many games I dropped after playing for a couple of hours, despite seemingly enjoying them. EZ2 was one of the very few that managed to hold my interest from start to finish. I didn't have to convince myself to boot up the game again. I thought such genuine enjoyment of games was lost to me, but EZ2 managed to rekindle it somehow.

what are those other titles that "gamers should get their hands on"?
yes, we in here love it. that's the subjective part. but objectively, the game is not really the greatest invention since sliced bread.

an ultrakill fan would say it is so good anyone should try it, but the game took a while to get its current reputation. it was not anticipated or praised so much before a while.
those people who developed and maintained a team fortress classic remake from scratch would love people to understand the fun of speedrunning a ctf map. they strived for some fairly original gameplay even by fast fps standard, yet it has been almost empty for years.
titanfall 2 deserves to be called one of the best recent triple a shooter according to many, yet it got arguably overshadowed by contemporary releases at first.

and here i only limited myself to fast-fps of different origins, so imagine the entirety of gaming. while ez2 is your fun oasis you wish was known by the whole world, many games were for other people. alleged good games not always taking the spotlight for x or y reasons (generally target audience and communication) is common and most natural in this world. ez2 goes by the same rules.
Virake 2022 年 9 月 8 日 上午 4:59 
calembredaine, Entropy : Zero 2 isn't some inside hobby for an exclusive group, it's loved by nearly everyone who tried it. most of the people that are now fans of Entropy : Zero 2 weren't a part of this community prior to the game's release. games like Ultrakill, Titanfall 2, and others that you mentioned (which are, I'm sure, fine games in their own right) don't boast such a high conversion rate.

what about other mods? if things like Enderal, New California and The Frontier can make headlines on major news sites, then I don't see why Entropy : Zero 2 shouldn't be able to. sure, objectively speaking, those mods are larger by an order of magnitude, but it's not like original Half-Life 2 takes 100 hours to beat.

there's also the fact that EZ2 is not a standalone title in a brand-new franchise. it's literally the biggest Half-Life game since the last official Half-Life game. there were plenty of projects that tried to fill the Half-Life void (including the many canceled Valve games), but so far Entropy : Zero 2 was the only one that truly managed to do it.

I don't see EZ2 quietly fizzling out into obscurity. the mainstream will catch on in time.
Virake 2022 年 9 月 8 日 上午 6:59 
Entropy : Zero 2 review by Richter Overtime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3AmavwY7s
some questionable humor in this video, but an it's an interesting perspective.
Nathan 2022 年 9 月 8 日 下午 2:55 
Vinny finale (pre-recorded)
Haven't watched it yet, but heard him say on his Gloomwood video that he loved it
https://youtu.be/2YurLrvgNsY
finlandslim 2022 年 9 月 8 日 下午 3:30 
Waiting for Stalkeros to publish his review of the game for the Russian-speaking community. So far many HL youtubers already made a video about the game. Also the game surpassed EZ1 reviews on Steam in two weeks. It's very impressive.
最后由 finlandslim 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 8 日 下午 3:42
calembredaine 2022 年 9 月 8 日 下午 4:35 
引用自 Virake
most of the people that are now fans of Entropy : Zero 2 weren't a part of this community prior to the game's release. games like Ultrakill, Titanfall 2, and others that you mentioned (which are, I'm sure, fine games in their own right) don't boast such a high conversion rate.
feel free to show me some actual figures. that's not really what i see at all. and no, i do not mean whether people followed ez2 or not prior to trying it.
for all ik the people playing this game were already into half-life and its modding community as a whole, not random gamers interested in any shooters. maybe you can argue its popularity skyrocketed compared to other hl mods, but that's no sufficient condition to warrant the same on the greater scale.

I don't see EZ2 quietly fizzling out into obscurity. the mainstream will catch on in time.
no one itt particularly argued it would definitely be left aside afaik.

however, i can definitely tell that the game not attracting attention as fast as you hoped is actually most normal. not everyone is sensible to that almost messianic aura you describe (take that as an hyperbole). again most are not even aware of the thing's existence yet.
最后由 calembredaine 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 8 日 下午 5:01
4gldchainzzz 2022 年 9 月 8 日 下午 4:44 
what
Virake 2022 年 9 月 9 日 上午 7:13 
calembredaine, the only ones who can show us actual figures are the devs. in an article from August 24 (four days after release) they said that there were 45 000 first-time downloads (source: https://www.moddb.com/mods/entropy-zero-2/news/ez2-post-release-debrief ). the lowest estimate for the current number of installs (calculated from the the review count) is upwards of 150 000, but the real number is probably a lot higher.

but is it just Half-Life/Valve fans that play this game? the target demographic of Entropy : Zero 2 is Half-Life fans, that's a fact, and it's necessary to own the original Half-Life 2 on Steam to play EZ2, that's also a fact… but that's not that big of a limiting factor. Half-Life 2 is a classic that's been played and enjoyed by millions, its player base is only a "community" in a very loose sense. it's the same thing as with mods for other games I mentioned earlier.
calembredaine 2022 年 9 月 9 日 上午 8:33 
yes, i have no idea what the population exactly is. what i threw earlier was as much an intuition as yours.

and not like it matters. all i had to say essentially is that cool games not being on the headline so fast has always been normal in gaming history. ez2 is not particularly unique in that regard at all, regardless of how much it is praised by those who currently know it.

mods receiving notoriety faster exist as well ofc, but that's no general trajectory. reason being, once again, that developing a game well is not all it takes to get it known. extensive communication, relationships and the likes do. either that, or hearsay do the work, which generally mirrors a game's quality but does demand a bit of time anyway.
Nathan 2022 年 9 月 9 日 下午 12:25 
JarekTheGamingDragon review, titled "Mod of the Year"
https://youtu.be/jT5Uo-LM_CI
Virake 2022 年 9 月 20 日 下午 2:49 
Virake 2022 年 10 月 1 日 下午 1:39 
Jolly Wanker's second stream VOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zoIQlHRuSw

Pyrocininal's stream VOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nBj0dNZPWY
Nathan 2022 年 10 月 1 日 下午 1:59 
Mr_Icarus also streamed EZ2 and was very positive about it, he got the Wilson ending and was beaming with joy :)
(He did not like EZ1 however...)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1570209171?t=02h32m11s
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1571205906
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1572080592
Virake 2022 年 10 月 1 日 下午 3:50 
引用自 Nathan
Mr_Icarus also streamed EZ2 and was very positive about it, he got the Wilson ending and was beaming with joy :)
(He did not like EZ1 however...)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1570209171?t=02h32m11s
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1571205906
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1572080592
yep, I forgot to post those.

I have to say, Mr_Icarus's streams were among the more interesting ones – precisely because he goes from such utter frustration to absolute joy over the course of playing EZ2.
Virake 2022 年 10 月 13 日 上午 8:11 
Jolly Wanker's third stream VOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnEXmbVpvT0
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