Sigma "feels" a bit unfair.

[Alfred E. Neuman]

I have this weird feeling that NG Sigma is way more difficult then NG Black. About a year ago I've played NG Black on Hard and it was difficult but not impossible. Right now I'm playing Sigma and the first 3 chapters are pretty difficult (more or less like Black) but when in Tairon it looks like they've ramped up the difficulty quite a bit. I am in chapter 6 right now and I am unable to get to the monastery because of those cat-like enemies and those black-spider ninja's which will kill me within 2 seconds in just a few hits. In NG Black I used to use the nunchaku's to kill the black-spiders (which were found in Tairon near the shortcut between Muramasa's shop and the Drawbridge area) but the devs have complete removed both the shortcut and the nunchaku's. So there I am with almost no health, no potions and without the nunchaku's and not being able to use the shortcut to the shop. It seems the only way for me to get past this is to lower the difficulty from Hard to Normal, but I actually don't want to do that.

Am I the only one who feels like this?

[DJBreM]

This game is only easier than black because you can parry berserker's and there are more shops and save points, other than that they are the same. The reason you are stuck is because they stupidly removed the nunchaku's which are a good weapon for cat fiends but the lunar is better against them, press xyy with the lunar and avoid jumping cos they will flying swallow you and kill you fast.

[Alfred E. Neuman]

Originally posted by DJBreM:

This game is only easier than black because you can parry berserker's and there are more shops and save points, other than that they are the same. The reason you are stuck is because they stupidly removed the nunchaku's which are a good weapon for cat fiends but the lunar is better against them, press xyy with the lunar and avoid jumping cos they will flying swallow you and kill you fast.

Maybe some parts of the game are easier than Black but the part in Tairon is definitely harder than Black. I've played Black multiple times on Hard-difficulty and I never had this much trouble getting to the monastery, I don't even stand a chance of beating those enemies with low health and without potions. It really feels very unfair and unbalanced compared to Black and the original game. So there's only one thing left and that is lowering the difficulty to Normal.

[DJBreM]

Yeah I guess it is harder because of the removed shortcut which was a dumb change imo. Did you do the fiend challenge in chapter 3 cause if you did just load an older save and buy healing items and use the lunar lvl 2 on cat fiends.
Honestly tairon on hard is harder than very hard because you have little to no experience with cat fiends but yeah if it's not as fun for you restart the game because video games are only meant for having fun anyway.

[xr ඞ]

What weapon are you using for the catfiends? The Lunar Staff is very effective against them. Be sure to block at all times and don't jump too much because their flying swallow is super deadly. If you jump, do the YY attack since it'll grant you invincibility frames.

You could also try extending some essence from another fight and do an ET/UT. You can get 2/3 down with a UT if you're lucky, and then repeat.

[Alfred E. Neuman]

I've already tried it with the Lunar Staff but it's only level 1 and I don't have the essence to upgrade it or buy any potions. But I already decided to do a playtrough on Normal difficulty because of this difficulty spike once I've entered Tairon. Somehow the original game and Black feels much more fair and balanced than Sigma.

But anyway...thanks for answering guys.

[J Jonoh Jamson]

Didn't feel any harder than Black when I played it. Only parts I struggled with were the Rachel chapters til I got good with Rachel. Though I do miss the shortcut for convenience.

[The roast is real]

Just use explosive arrows while jumping. This is stupidly effective against catfiends and makes them a joke to fight with.

In my case, i feel Sigma is a lot easier than Black.

[The Itagaki cognitive]

This is one of the most fair games ever made and the game is not more difficult than Black people have just gone soft.

[Hunter_ARG]

No

[-#VSH#-]

Originally posted by TILL THIS DAY:

This is one of the most fair games ever made and the game is not more difficult than Black people have just gone soft.

all pro players like JTB, Bigalski and Farnham TheDrunk (challenge runner) said what game is not fair and unbalanced. Anyway, the director Tomonobu Itagaki in documentary about NG "way of the warrior part 1 (11:48) said "its ok if game slightly unbalanced....."
Thats main idea of the game
ps: and yeah , black is not harder then Z1, some moment in sigma 1 harder , especially begining (1-4 levels maybe on master ninja)

[valfarovhel]

Originally posted by -#VSH#-:

Originally posted by TILL THIS DAY:

This is one of the most fair games ever made and the game is not more difficult than Black people have just gone soft.

all pro players like JTB, Bigalski and Farnham TheDrunk (challenge runner) said what game is not fair and unbalanced. Anyway, the director Tomonobu Itagaki in documentary about NG "way of the warrior part 1 (11:48) said "its ok if game slightly unbalanced....."
Thats main idea of the game
ps: and yeah , black is not harder then Z1, some moment in sigma 1 harder , especially begining (1-4 levels maybe on master ninja)

Black is harder and this version removed aspects of Black too, and some of those added to the difficulty. The only annoyance people really find in the Sigma version is certain adds. Alma in Black is a bit more annoying, but people find the black spider ninjas annoying and claim that's why sigma is harder. You can just stun them with smoke bombs, use a wall attack against them, roll, and use the windmill against them.

[-#VSH#-]

Originally posted by Valfarovhel:

Originally posted by -#VSH#-:

all pro players like JTB, Bigalski and Farnham TheDrunk (challenge runner) said what game is not fair and unbalanced. Anyway, the director Tomonobu Itagaki in documentary about NG "way of the warrior part 1 (11:48) said "its ok if game slightly unbalanced....."
Thats main idea of the game
ps: and yeah , black is not harder then Z1, some moment in sigma 1 harder , especially begining (1-4 levels maybe on master ninja)

Black is harder and this version removed aspects of Black too, and some of those added to the difficulty. The only annoyance people really find in the Sigma version is certain adds. Alma in Black is a bit more annoying, but people find the black spider ninjas annoying and claim that's why sigma is harder. You can just stun them with smoke bombs, use a wall attack against them, roll, and use the windmill against them.

sigma deleted some puzzles, change berserks ( 1vs1 he is hard in Black, but in Sigma especially in stadium challenge on master ninja , 3 berserks are harder in sigma with portals every sec and projectiles), Doku in black is more annoying not hard, Alma's projectiles harder to dodge in black, but dodge pilars in Sigma is harder, multiply worms battle is harder because in black you have just 1 worm, sigma has new challenge in 3 chapt. But sigma add bow air shot, and thats cheap move, Nicchae has summoners in black(so thats hard). Overall something in sigma 1 is easy, something harder.....but sigma 2 ohh
PS: bombs are amazing , but i love wind run\path to shuriken to other ninja. mmm so sweet

[valfarovhel]

Originally posted by -#VSH#-:

Originally posted by Valfarovhel:

Black is harder and this version removed aspects of Black too, and some of those added to the difficulty. The only annoyance people really find in the Sigma version is certain adds. Alma in Black is a bit more annoying, but people find the black spider ninjas annoying and claim that's why sigma is harder. You can just stun them with smoke bombs, use a wall attack against them, roll, and use the windmill against them.

sigma deleted some puzzles, change berserks ( 1vs1 he is hard in Black, but in Sigma especially in stadium challenge on master ninja , 3 berserks are harder in sigma with portals every sec and projectiles), Doku in black is more annoying not hard, Alma's projectiles harder to dodge in black, but dodge pilars in Sigma is harder, multiply worms battle is harder because in black you have just 1 worm, sigma has new challenge in 3 chapt. But sigma add bow air shot, and thats cheap move, Nicchae has summoners in black(so thats hard). Overall something in sigma 1 is easy, something harder.....but sigma 2 ohh
PS: bombs are amazing , but i love wind run\path to shuriken to other ninja. mmm so sweet

I never found her pillars hard to dodge, tbh in either you just roll. In Black she just dodges faster and ninpo rarely works on her on higher settings. I think there are more adds with her on MN in Black. Doku is just annoying in all versions due to his cheap shots.

[-#VSH#-]

Originally posted by Valfarovhel:

Originally posted by -#VSH#-:

sigma deleted some puzzles, change berserks ( 1vs1 he is hard in Black, but in Sigma especially in stadium challenge on master ninja , 3 berserks are harder in sigma with portals every sec and projectiles), Doku in black is more annoying not hard, Alma's projectiles harder to dodge in black, but dodge pilars in Sigma is harder, multiply worms battle is harder because in black you have just 1 worm, sigma has new challenge in 3 chapt. But sigma add bow air shot, and thats cheap move, Nicchae has summoners in black(so thats hard). Overall something in sigma 1 is easy, something harder.....but sigma 2 ohh
PS: bombs are amazing , but i love wind run\path to shuriken to other ninja. mmm so sweet

I never found her pillars hard to dodge, tbh in either you just roll. In Black she just dodges faster and ninpo rarely works on her on higher settings. I think there are more adds with her on MN in Black. Doku is just annoying in all versions due to his cheap shots.

I used ninpo more for i-frames some attack in Awaken Alma fight, not for dmg, in both versions of the game. Pilars are very hard to dodge even with roll-jump if you a little close to her (if very close - imposible to dodge, only ninpo) , in sigma for me its harder, but i dont understand why. In black her projectiles a little faster, i dont really understand is flying swallow more stable in sigma or black to hit her in air

[valfarovhel]

Originally posted by -#VSH#-:

Originally posted by Valfarovhel:

I never found her pillars hard to dodge, tbh in either you just roll. In Black she just dodges faster and ninpo rarely works on her on higher settings. I think there are more adds with her on MN in Black. Doku is just annoying in all versions due to his cheap shots.

I used ninpo more for i-frames some attack in Awaken Alma fight, not for dmg, in both versions of the game. Pilars are very hard to dodge even with roll-jump if you a little close to her (if very close - imposible to dodge, only ninpo) , in sigma for me its harder, but i dont understand why. In black her projectiles a little faster, i dont really understand is flying swallow more stable in sigma or black to hit her in air

Well, you can also jump or use attacks to fly away. The only problem is some of that connects with the adds, and then she cheap shot traps you. If you learn the timing of the pillars they aren't that difficult to dodge in comparison to the adds on the higher settings. I find her dive more annoying to time in Black too as it varies on how annoyed she is with you. Itagaki designed that based on how you attack and doge her. So, she'll do cheap shots based on that, similar to Doku's cheap shots. Flying swallow works better in black as it's semi-broken in sigma. One thing that annoys me more about the Sigma versions of 1 is that I grew up more with 1 and black, on og xbox so I'm looking for certain things that are not in the right location or just removed in Sigma. Like, in one setting of black the lunar is in level 2, but in sigma it's in level, well chapter 4 behind that gate.