What are the proven best attributes for each role

[famingfire]

I've seen 2 videos by Zealand where he showed according to some test which attributes if made 20 and the rest 10 are the best for the goalie and the forward role. But does anyone else know for the other roles and what attributes would you recommend for the other roles?

[Maruricki]

GK:
-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination, Positioning, Workrate, Teamwork

-Technical: All attribute except Eccentricity and Tendency to Punch

-Physical: Agility, Acceleration, Pace, Jumping, Strength

DR/DL:(both are on attack duty)
-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination, Positioning, Workrate, Teamwork, Off the Ball

-Technical: Technique, Tackling, Passing, Dribbling, Crossing, Marking

-Physical: Agility, Acceleration, Pace, Stamina

DC: (i play with 2 BPD, if you only use one or none then forget the Dribbling part)
-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination, Positioning, Workrate, Teamwork, Vision

-Technical: Technique, Tackling, Passing, Dribbling, Marking

-Physical: Agility, Acceleration, Pace, Jumping, Strength

DMC:(Deep lying/half back):
-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination, Positioning, Workrate, Teamwork, Vision

-Technical: Technique, Tackling, Passing, Dribbling, Marking

-Physical: Balance, Strength

MC(Roaming playmaker/B2B):

-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination, Positioning, Workrate, Teamwork, Vision, Off the ball

-Technical: Technique, , Passing, Dribbling, Longshot

-Physical: Agility, Acceleration, Pace, Balance, Strength

MC(adv playmaker):

-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination,
Teamwork, Vision, Off the ball

-Technical: Technique, , Passing, Dribbling

-Physical: Agility, Acceleration, Pace, Balance

AMR/AML:

-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination,
Teamwork, Vision, Off the ball

-Technical: Technique, Passing, Dribbling, Finishing(finishing is necessary if you're playing with Inside Forward)

-Physical: Agility, Acceleration, Pace, Balance


ST:(False nine):

-Mental: Anticipation, Bravery, Composure, Concentration, Decision, Determination,
Teamwork, Vision, Off the ball

-Technical: Technique, Passing, Dribbling, Finishing(finishing is necessary if you're playing with Inside Forward)

-Physical: Agility, Acceleration, Pace, Balance



Do note that for every player you have to prioritze MENTAL first, then TECHNIQUE, then PHYSICAL in that order

[famingfire]

Whoa okay that is very different then I was thinking. A few things why mental over physical I was actually thinking about doing it the other way? Like I would chose and recruit young youth with high mental and then mass train physical as physical is the fastest to train at a young age. Second of all what is your opinion on Zealands video regarding best attributes for Forwards/strikers and Goalkeepers and why would you disagree?

My thinking was that an amazing strength would make for a really good team especially for forwards since makes it harder and the dribbling for people to get the ball from you.

What is the thing I am most wrong about regarding what I have said I really want to get better.

[fc.cadoni]

Here the attribute weighting for each position (it's the same for FM22): https://www.fmscout.com/a-guide-to-current-ability-in-football-manager.html?pg=1

[famingfire]

Thank you very much! I found this site to be the most comprehensive https://fm-arena.com/table/13-fm22-attributes-ratings/?reset=1#options.

[famingfire]

Actually never mind that thing doesn't seem to work properly.

[toutoufee]

cc

[fc.cadoni]

引用自 famingfire：

Thank you very much! I found this site to be the most comprehensive https://fm-arena.com/table/13-fm22-attributes-ratings/?reset=1#options.

Have in mind that the numbers showing in FM Scouting article, is coming from the official Pre-Game Editor (from the developers).

[famingfire]

I see. But hmm it seems like when people like Zealand do tests they get slightly different results regarding what works best in practice. From what I understand it seems like these attribute tables effect the current rating of a player but current rating alone doesn't predict how well a player will do in game. Something very interesting I have found is if a value gives a current rating boost of 6.0 it usually does extremely good on tests designed to find which is the best independent variable. Also if it gets on the attribute table a multiplicative value of 10.0 the highest value it is very good on independently done tests and also very consistently good. All in all what do you guys think of the independently done test done by Zealand. Are they actually accurate or not and why?

[fc.cadoni]

引用自 famingfire：

I see. But hmm it seems like when people like Zealand do tests they get slightly different results regarding what works best in practice. From what I understand it seems like these attribute tables effect the current rating of a player but current rating alone doesn't predict how well a player will do in game. Something very interesting I have found is if a value gives a current rating boost of 6.0 it usually does extremely good on tests designed to find which is the best independent variable. Also if it gets on the attribute table a multiplicative value of 10.0 the highest value it is very good on independently done tests and also very consistently good. All in all what do you guys think of the independently done test done by Zealand. Are they actually accurate or not and why?

Zealand test environment is not the same as you or me or everyone else. So, results can vary. From weighting of attributes for each position, you can see that physical attributes is the most important - must have for each position. It's not hidden that match engine favor high press and fast play.