Ruby Shop Upgrades

[animals fan12]

I am currently buying the Party Slot one each time i get 10000 of them until i get all 3 of them, after that i will buy the Template one at least once so that i can have 2 different sets of party, one for doing story mode battles and farming summons i have not unlocked at the moment, and the other for gathering items over time like flower and honey for example, basically the non-combat ones

After i do that, i might go for Squad slots so that i can have more than 1 quest going at the same time until i get all 3 of them, then go for the extra quest slots plus the 20% reward boost for them as well.

[Pendergast891]

you unlock a party template at some point through achievement rewards, so no need for that one,

[Darnavir]

Party first, shortcuts (Sloth FTW) or quest after? Second squad can be bought for 500 inspiration in Astral world. Not gonna bother with anything other than party before maxed.

[animals fan12]

I am going to do the party slot one first, after that i will aim for the squad slot for having more than one quest going at the same time for my squad that i am not using for either farming items or doing combat, after i done those i will get the quest boost one next follow by the party template one if i did not get a free one by the achievement list before that point

I won't be able to get the squad one for the Astral world one since i think i need to beat Demon King at least once before i can get that, until i beat the Scarlet Dragon story boss fight which is the one i have not done yet i won't be able to reach demon king, so i am going to farm status upgrades in the astral world section as well as food to raise my attack stat up, i might also have the order of my party be the ones that deal the most amount of damage to the least amount going top to bottom since i think that dragon have 2 AOE attacks so having the member that deal the weakest damage at the top will probably not work for me for that battle.

[Darnavir]

Speaking for myself, I killed the demon king long before the second ruby party slot. The second quest squad came from Astral World (500 inspiration isn't that much at this point, there's also a party template for 500 inspiration).
Btw, too many squads aren't helpful if you can clear all quests without them. More squads mean less stamina for each of them and max stamina of a squad increases the quest reward. Not by much much but it is something for free.

[animals fan12]

I notice both of the squad and template one are in Astral world screen, if i don't max out that Inspiration one 4 times in the row to grab that max cap for it before i get all of the party slot one and have enough for one of them, i will get the template one first before starting on the other one, most of the quests takes about 6, 8, or 12 hours to finish for me with just 1 squad at a time.

[Darnavir]

I ended up buying the improved auto devote before last party slot. With auto habit allocation, sloth, 2 squads and 2 party templates (no rubies needed), the will management became the last thing requiring too much attention.
Btw, do you ignore dark rituals and/or reincarnations? To me, 100 inspiration cap became quickly limiting.

[animals fan12]

I use Dark Ritual when the Talent is equal or greater than the highest one i reach during the run each time, since doing that every 60 minutes or so when the talent is lower than the highest one i reach means i gain Inspiration slower and my starting will is lower as well because of this, meaning it take longer for me to gain Inspirations or raise the starting will when it comes to getting ranks over time.

[Darnavir]

To be honest, the talent doesn't matter that much. Class routines slowly increase it over time anyways.
Higher talent slightly improves habit efficiency and makes next dark ritual's ranking up faster. This really matters only when you need a high rank for something and can't easily get it.
Inspiration gets you various benefits and can be dumped into bottomless habit and stats improvements - this is where the progress is. Enough habit efficiency allows you capping speed of many routines with 1 habit, reducing the need for higher ranks.
And unlike talent, Astral world and Akashic record bought stuff persists through reincarnations.

[Synthar]

Originally posted by animals fan12:

I use Dark Ritual when the Talent is equal or greater than the highest one i reach during the run each time, since doing that every 60 minutes or so when the talent is lower than the highest one i reach means i gain Inspiration slower and my starting will is lower as well because of this, meaning it take longer for me to gain Inspirations or raise the starting will when it comes to getting ranks over time.

why is your starting will lower? it should increase wich each DR, independent of how much talent or whatever you got

and as darnavir wrote, dont care about talent, only when you need a specific rank to continue
inspiration is your bread and butter in this game, you will need millions of it and you will get it too, if you continue to DR
so, the most efficient way to play is to DR asap, except if you are close to reaching rank 28 to unlock will or if you need a specific rank
if you DR often you will get a lot more inspiration then if you wait for a long time, since the experience needed for the next rank doubles (or x4? i dont remember)

[Darnavir]

Just checked and it seems to be x4 for next rank.
The starting will shouldn't be affected, it seems dependent on total will gained or spent - fewer DRs might actually increase it a little bit faster. Not that it matters, there's only a little difference (unless the longer DR is needed to reach rank 28). This of course ignores inspirations spent on habit efficiency.

[Dodging Rain]

Fun fact. You can reference another sloth template in a reference slot.

[animals fan12]

Originally posted by Synthar:

Originally posted by animals fan12:

I use Dark Ritual when the Talent is equal or greater than the highest one i reach during the run each time, since doing that every 60 minutes or so when the talent is lower than the highest one i reach means i gain Inspiration slower and my starting will is lower as well because of this, meaning it take longer for me to gain Inspirations or raise the starting will when it comes to getting ranks over time.

why is your starting will lower? it should increase wich each DR, independent of how much talent or whatever you got

and as darnavir wrote, dont care about talent, only when you need a specific rank to continue
inspiration is your bread and butter in this game, you will need millions of it and you will get it too, if you continue to DR
so, the most efficient way to play is to DR asap, except if you are close to reaching rank 28 to unlock will or if you need a specific rank
if you DR often you will get a lot more inspiration then if you wait for a long time, since the experience needed for the next rank doubles (or x4? i dont remember)

I though the Initial Will thing in the tooltip, which is Will's Starting amount for each Dark Ritual, get lower if my Talent is not equal or greater than the highest one i have reach previously, but if what you and Darnavir is saying does not matter for this, then i will start doing this after i get my Talent to be equal to what my current one is or higher one more time before i start doing those rituals every 60 minutes or so.

[Synthar]

try it, you can make a manual save before and reload if you are unsure

*edit* i see you mean initial will, not max will, now im unsure, but it still dosent matter, do 1h DRs for better efficiency, very soon you will not care about initial will and only care about max will, since thats the limiting factor most of the game

[animals fan12]

Ok, i will do so on the next day or during Monday depending on when i do this after i get the next free brown chest from having a safe file for it on my PC, i have defeated Silver dragon at least once but not got the thing needed to summon the dragon for the first time to make the next story mode boss fight easier due to the bonuses it gives for wind and earth.

[J3Z3B3L7]

The 3 party slots are everyone's first pick, no denying that.

After I got those three I focused on things that would help me automate.

Auto Sacred Ritual - as soon as I had Auto Habit Allocation this made life easy. When I reincarnate I just re-select the zone I'm clearing and that's it. It also makes it easier to reset at any time. I might not normally have time to start a new run before I leave for work, but when it's this easy I do.

Upgrade Auto Eat slot - The ability to prevent auto-eat from using ALL of the food is really handy and flexible. The main use is for a raw resource you want to eat and cook with. Or in the case of honey to eat, cook with, craft with, and provide resource gain.

Improved Auto-Devote - Now I can just select everything and let it go. Or if I want to rush levels I can de-select everything but Holy Will. One less thing to constantly fiddle with.

Improved Put In - Nice to keep a stash of gold for levelling or whatever. Or set it to like 80-95% of your gold and keep the auto-donate on forever, then you make sure you don't waste the gold you collect.

I might just go for quest reward increase next, then probably more quest slots, but I may change my mind and go for shortcut slots to make sloth more complicated. The eny upgrades look like fun late game, but you need a ton of sin and habit efficiency before it'll be useful.