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FireMage Jan 31, 2023 @ 12:07am
Pride - First run
So when is a good time to start running pride? I started my first run after having ED1 on 5/5 and ED2 2/5. Everything went well but I can't beat ScarletDragon or the Demon King. I also dont want to abandon the run. I upgraded every option in every location that i could. Is my only option GlutFarming and investing in StatusUp from Inspiration?
Originally posted by cas:
iirc, 200k he+ is when will, (and everything else), is speed capped with one point invested. stacking he+ will make rank ups a lot faster, which will help with ins and sin gains. i aim for 20k he+ by first ed3 clear, and 200k before ed4.

even stacking he+ on your first run is better than SU, contrary to what the guides say. both su and he+ will finish the first run in about the same amount of time, but he+ makes the second run, and every following run, a lot faster than su.
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Synthar Jan 31, 2023 @ 3:29am 
yes, but i would reccomend abadoning pride
whats the latest area you have cleared? Dessert?
i would reccomend abadoning the run and going for more runs, if you clear more areas, you get way stronger, making pride easyer
the rewards you get for one clear arent worth the time at that point in my opinion, and to 5/5 a pride it gets harder each time
dont do pride if you cant breeze throug the first pride easily, the pride level goes up each time, decreasing your stats to a tenth less each time
Last edited by Synthar; Jan 31, 2023 @ 3:30am
cas Feb 3, 2023 @ 4:55pm 
gluttony is a waste of time. better to do fast runs to start snowballing sin (since it doesnt reset on reinc). or if envy is available, start building that up.

if you're about 8 runs into the game, getting the one-time sin purchases should be your priority. iirc, it should be about 2hours per reinc at that point. just keep doing ed1 every couple hours, and dump all your inspiration into habit efficiency+ for a while (until 200k he+).
FireMage Feb 4, 2023 @ 11:16am 
Why 200k+? Thats a little much. Ive got 2k right now. Pumping it slowly with stats up as well
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cas Feb 5, 2023 @ 12:38pm 
iirc, 200k he+ is when will, (and everything else), is speed capped with one point invested. stacking he+ will make rank ups a lot faster, which will help with ins and sin gains. i aim for 20k he+ by first ed3 clear, and 200k before ed4.

even stacking he+ on your first run is better than SU, contrary to what the guides say. both su and he+ will finish the first run in about the same amount of time, but he+ makes the second run, and every following run, a lot faster than su.
FireMage Feb 5, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
Ok i now get the 200k+ part. Thats wild that you can get max will with 1 habit. That also means that Task Efficiency in Will is useless after then?
I'll get my ED2 to 5/5 and grind he+. Thank You for the tips and explanation
I have a small question on that Pride runs too, uhm im the reward section there is - +2% all stats and [5th clear ... and so on.
Does the reward +2% stats happen every clear or once once?
Ruby150 Jan 20 @ 2:30am 
Every time you complete a Pride run, you gain whatever the reward is that doesn't state it's a fifth completion reward. So if a Pride challenge would give you 4% to your stats, doing all five would grant you a 20% bonus for doing all five for that specific ending
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