Might be stuck, too weak - ED2

[Variant 13]

Hi all,

I'm looking for some help, I've reincarnated once & think I've made a few mistakes that have left me too weak to complete ED2 (which I selected when reincarnating- Sloth as the sin I unlocked).

I chose to Sorcerer (lvl 21.8k) this second time out, I've unlocked all the boosts in upgrade actions in the Astral & have started on the equipment (Leather Shield & Magic Wand, which I've remembered to equip). All the summons up to Scarlet Dragon are fully levelled, I've just unlocked Sand swordfish & Charity Larva.

Gluttony-wise, everything boosted to at least 400%, Magic attack & defence are at 1000%

I'm up to the 1st dungeon of the Desert & Demon Castle (everything else complete, including the holy sword), but can't seem to progress with either, so I'm hoping for some advice. Is this a case of unlock other equipment & level it or is there something else I should be doing?

[JayXan]

You can abandon the current ending or something of that nature in wording. When you abandon it, you dont give up. it just unlocks your choices and you can go to ending 1 again with your current progress, and do whatever you want.

If you're not max seeded with every unit unlocked then I recommend doing ending 1 a couple of times so you can progress further and get stronger creatures.

Btw, I am at about 5000 hours played currently. - Games a slow burn. You can try to get some inspirations or sins as well and get some of your base stats up.

You *CAN* brute force it with gluttony, but if you're to the point to where gluttony is going to take a month to show any progress, you'll probably have more fun just reincarnating again and working up those creatures and inspirations.

Of my many hours played, I only long-term gluttony grinded a few times, Once to kill the desert boss, and once to kill the story ending 5 boss.

[cas]

yeah, just spam ED1 as warrior until you can afford the 'class inheritance' from sin. then do a sorc run, then tamer. then typically, just stick with tamer from here on out. (only exception is sorc for ed4 push)

iirc, it was about 5 ed1s to get ed2, 100ish eds1 to get ed4, and about 300 for ed6. might take a few more as many of these were long runs before greed was added to the game.

[Darnavir]

300 for ed6 is a bit excessive. Ed6 is more about status ups than anything else and these are usually gained in a long run (with enough inspiration+). I cleared it in a day with ~200 ed1 clears.

Number of clears needed is most likely dependent on sins/run though. Exp makes a big difference.

[Acaykath]

You should also note the title that grants blessing regen which you get the first time you reincarnate. That will give you a destiny boost you might need.

[Variant 13]

Thanks you all for the advice, I'll probably abandon my current ending & go for a few more ED1s.

[Variant 13]

Originally posted by Acaykath:

You should also note the title that grants blessing regen which you get the first time you reincarnate. That will give you a destiny boost you might need.

I don't think it's a lack of destiny that's stopping me from progressing, ED2 is Moment of Peace & i assume I have to beat the Demon King in the 2nd dungeon, but right now he's 2 billion HP to my 40 million HP & I don't see how to bridge that gap.

[Darnavir]

You're right with both the assumption and bridging that gap. I'd recommend dropping the guide and going for ED1 right now. Start ED2 when you feel like you can reasonably get the stats needed to kill the DK.
Excluding the (honestly insignificant) sacred ritual from ED3, endings 1 - 3 give you only more destiny. Selected ending has no effect on sins (the thing you are after now).

Afaik you should have unlocked Destroyer - make sure you get all summons from it (killing it after reincarnation without gluttony and upgrade actions will be harder than before reincarnation). 40M HP means more than enough stats to kill it. Seeding them isn't a top priority, they will take ages like all future guardian summons.

More greeds are unlocked with more reincarnations. They boost different things and make raising talent easier.

[Acaykath]

Or you can just farm attack+ using gluttony until you can beat him.

[Darnavir]

Atk&sorcerer aren't the best combo, not in the 2nd run. This isn't the problem there anyways, lack of base stats is. Starting with 5 clears of ED1 before trying ED2 is reasonable.

[Acaykath]

Even running sorcerer I use atk because stamina attacks are cheaper. Power stab all the way!

[Darnavir]

I highly doubt that in the 2nd run. There's nothing generating stamina - summons, stone statues, routine (all that is available) probably don't reach 0.5/s. Magic circulation&multiple elements are better there.

When I think about it now, many summons probably use their default skill because everything using set skills isn't always sustainable. This favors MAtk - more elements/energy pools to choose from.