Best seed grinding strategy?

[shde2e]

Whats the best way to get seeds quickly?
Obviously stacking all the possible bonuses, but are any monsters that give lots of seeds? Or other ways to get them quickly?

[Jywert3]

I am not sure. Did grind few hours on teacher & demon king. But like you need 100k seeds so it seems to be a quite time sink

[J. Jonah Jameson]

I am rather early game, having completed only ED1, but I tend to grind the Scarlet Dragon boss for seeds. He has a 100% drop chance of 8.2 seeds (according to my bestiary) and I can one shot him. Then I add party members to increase the drop amount. The wiki says that a great strategy is to add Scarlet dragon and other high seed drop chance monsters (as checked by your bestiary in the party tab) to the demon king, and then one shot his entire party once he summons them with the move brain domination. If he summons first turn, he will go first, which is what the strategy depends on.

[Arkanth]

If you have already gotten to Demon King, I find the best way to farm is to use the "Brain Domination" strategy with a team of summons with either very high seed drop chance rate, seed drop chance passive or high luck. I get around 1.5k of each seed every 30 min or so.

[SP00KYGUNNER]

After you get Sloth, tournaments. Set one of the tournaments (the highest one you can one shot) as your short cut 1. Set you seed drop chance as high as possible. I was getting 100% drop of 12 seeds every 2 seconds, I'm sure you could get this higher though. Down side here is you get no gold, resources, or research with this method.

[Arkanth]

As an update to this, I just tested it and I'm getting 126 (100%) to 155 (27%) seeds every 4,2s (Brain Domination) when then DK starts with summon, which is most of the time, and 43.6 seeds when only the DK. Have not been able to get anything better.

The setup for those curious is:

Active team: Character, Griffon (0 luck, the research drop rate is broken but 100% drop rate on seed), Hell Butterfly (Max Luck, good for max seed), Mythril Bird (Max luck, 100% drop rate on seed, 60% seed drop amount), King Cobra (Max luck, 100% drop rate on seed).

Passive team: Elite chicken (40% seed drop amount), Soldier Bee (60% seed drop amount), Wyvern (80% seed drop amount).

Familiar at 33, divided equally between the three Dryads.

[Bassprediger]

Originally posted by Arkanth:

As an update to this, I just tested it and I'm getting 126 (100%) to 155 (27%) seeds every 4,2s (Brain Domination) when then DK starts with summon, which is most of the time, and 43.6 seeds when only the DK. Have not been able to get anything better.

The setup for those curious is:

Active team: Character, Griffon (0 luck, the research drop rate is broken but 100% drop rate on seed), Hell Butterfly (Max Luck, good for max seed), Mythril Bird (Max luck, 100% drop rate on seed, 60% seed drop amount), King Cobra (Max luck, 100% drop rate on seed).

Passive team: Elite chicken (40% seed drop amount), Soldier Bee (60% seed drop amount), Wyvern (80% seed drop amount).

Familiar at 33, divided equally between the three Dryads.

When using Brain Domination i always ran out of MP at some point and after trying around a bit i found one of the best and free methods is Norn -> Tree Golem. You gotta free up a slot for the girl though. Even if you wouldn't run out of MP with Brain Domination doing it this way you can even run statues at the same time and get XP boost as a side effect.

If someone wants to try this with an unseeded Mythril Bird activating only artists dryad until the Bird`s special is maxed should be faster in the long run even if some special seeds might go to waste later.

The guardians drop a good amount of seeds too.

For people in earlier stages bandit cave has much higher seed amounts than any place reachable before graduation if i remember correctly. However it requires you to re-enter every time before it is finished as it`s a one-time dungeon. Would only use bandits when you want to max something ASAP.

[Tourfaint]

Latest update broke the brain domination farming strat, because it now scales out of weapon speed, so if you level warriors optimization at all, it will screw up the timing, sad about this update.

[Synthar]

you can still easily use it, set eg norn in the first slot w/o a set skill
then use you next, and try where you need to be in terms of speed and vary the skill, something around 2.7 seconds
you might also find a fitting summon, but until now i didnt bother and just adjust the skill you is using

[Jerry]

Brain Domination seems to be a water skill, so water summons should be able to use it. I got to give camel or tree golem a try, once I'm post-graduation again, maybe they still fit the demon king speed.

[Nico]

Yeah, simply giving any non weapon unit the skill still works, that really just requires a minor change in your strategy and shouldn't really be a big problem, once you noticed the issue.

[Bassprediger]

DK1 -> DK2 is better than Braindom anyway.
t10>t9t>t8>t7>t6=Dk1/2/+DK 2/3>DK+Boss>braindom
Leaving the less important things for when you have beaten the currently last area can save you a huge amount of time as well. You everything max and summons special max are the only things you really need as the bottom unit can beat every dungeon alone if fast and strong enough. Although you might want to max either phys or mag of your strongest 4 summons as well but it's not essential. So checking only artists dryad gives triple the bonus oppposed to checking all three dryads.

[Phoenix-Mask]

Originally posted by Bass:

DK1 -> DK2 is better than Braindom anyway.
t10>t9t>t8>t7>t6=Dk1/2/+DK 2/3>DK+Boss>braindom

Is this supposed to make any sense?

[Bassprediger]

I could just be a ♥♥♥♥ and say yes but not to plebs.

[Bassprediger]

tournament round 10> TR 9 > TR 8 > TR7 > TR6 = Dk1/2/ + DK 2/3 > DK+Boss > braindom
All assuming sloth'ed oneshotting with sharpspike. Except braindom of course.

[JayXan]

For me I go with my highest drop % party, faster dungeon spawn, and combat speed. I have a whale in there to feed me fish as well and go to the hardest dungeon I can 1 shot enemies, usually a second floor because generally its a little more gold. Usually, with my late game party I am filling thousands of seeds up pretty quickly and I am auto spending my gold on equipment, and auto eating fish and a routine like milk, or olives. Just in case I want the power for something.

I dont generally ONLY focus on seeds because I find it more efficient to level everything up than just one thing up. But play how you find fun.