I hate steam reviews and the "gaming" community

[Kapy]

God knows games either suck or they are great. There is unfortunately rarely something in between for many people. And while there is LOTS of things that callisto protocol deserves to be critized for, I can't help but think sometimes:

Damn, we horror fans really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up one of the very few AAA titles in this genre by comparing it to dead space and giving the game on release no chance to adjust.
I'm not saying, that games shouldn't be polished on release.
I'm not saying, that this game deserves to be a 10/10 or anything like that.

But I am saying - we "gamers" are at fault that we only get games as a service. We are at fault that tons of games release as early access titles without any chance to getting fully released. We are at fault, because we vote with our wallet and every single youtuber on this planet loves to jump on a good old controversy train for sensationalism which encourages their fans to review bomb a title and scare of any potential buyers.

Callisto Protocol has a great soundtrack, amazing graphics, a janky but very cinematic combatsystem and not one in a dozen indie horror titles.

[Ludus Aurea]

Another reason to read real reviews, not meme ♥♥♥♥ on the store front page. The people taking it seriously are there if you look for us.

I can't say it's my best review or well organized, but I like the game and was honest about it. This ♥♥♥♥'s been up for like 1.5 years and no one has even read it.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/ludus_aurea/recommended/1544020/

"YouTubers" with large followings are a cancer on gaming. They aren't real gamers and they spew nonsense like you said which causes their lemming followers to regurgitate what they said without even trying it themselves. I'm almost glad I have so few subscribers.

Callisto Protocol definitely isn't a 10, I'd say more like an 8 which is still good. But it's a shame that Krafton threw this game and this developer in the trash. It had potential to be a good franchise and it's like they made Final Transmission a troll DLC on purpose to twist the knife one last time on both the developer and the fans (no spoilers you'll have to find out what i mean if you haven't played it).

I personally bought 2 copies of it so far and I've played it on 4 systems but oh well. (Steam, PC Game Pass, Xbox Game Pass on console and PS5).

[Kapy]

I know about the dlc. And when I heard about the ending(didn't play the dlc) I definitely felt the same way about it.

You review has some weird script error in it. And I've briefly taken a look at your video and though I wish more people would take a look at it, I think half an hour might be too long for the average attention span, considering how much shorts are getting popularity.

Well, a las, horrorfans won't get more proper triple A games and we are at fault for it.

[Chrille 🎃]

"Damn, we horror fans really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up one of the very few AAA titles in this genre by comparing it to dead space and giving the game on release no chance to adjust."

WE HORROR FANS DID EXPECT A FUNCTIONING GAME! THE DEVS DID NOT DELIVER!

[Kapy]

And that is why we get the 10th remake of some old game with some better textures in it's old engine. Or the yearly fifa/call of duty/assassins creed rehash on the same engine with barely any additions.
*And the game will run on any system like it's series-titles before.*

Why as an developer would you start a new game series, with new technical features on a new engine, risking that your company fails, if the average consumer prefers to keep buying garbage?

Good job, you played yourself

[Lardo]

Oh please. If the game is broken on launch, a single glance on the Steam rating will let you know, without fail. This alone makes it the best thing since sliced bread. You're just butthurt that the rating doesn't correspond to your personal opinion.

[Kapy]

Have you read what I've written, Lardo?
I'm not denying that the game had tons of technical issues. In fact, in the third sentence of my post I admit that this game had a lot of things that it could be criticized for.

But at the same time, the gaming community chokes on remakes, bad releases, false advertisement, overhype, never finished early access titles.

I just wished, people would have been more lenient and patient with these developers.
That someone would have said, hey it's a new IP, great graphics, a chillingly beautiful theme song(Kings Elliot - Lost again), unreal engine 4, non-indie horror and it's janky on lots of hardware, but they will fix it. Just return it with steam refund, go back at it in two weeks.

And I bet that situation would have been the best outcome for all parties. Developers and players.

But instead we got reviewbombs and rage videos on youtube. That generates clicks.
I hope you can understand my frustration.

[DrStrangelove]

I did enjoy both Callisto Protocol and Dead Space but in my opinion they are 2 different games that should not be compared. Callisto is all about the atmosphere, exploration, slow pacing. If you don't enjoy "looking at stuff", advancing slowly and immerse yourself in a sci-fi environment, of course you're not going to like the game. It doesn't make it a bad game if it's not your cup of tea. I didn't like Baldur's Gate 3. It felt like a chore to play it. But I absolutely understand how incredible this game is and why a zillion players did liked it. I didn't went berserk on some forums to tell people not to play BG3 because if someone doesn't thing like me, I will feel insecure.

Btw, yes Dead Space is a better game than Callisto. It has all the qualities of Callisto with better gameplay. Yet, that's not an argument to not play Callisto. It's like saying The Empire Strikes Back was the best Star Wars so you should not listen to the other movies of the series.

[Motive]

Originally posted by Lardo:

Oh please. If the game is broken on launch, a single glance on the Steam rating will let you know, without fail. This alone makes it the best thing since sliced bread. You're just butthurt that the rating doesn't correspond to your personal opinion.

It's not just broken product, the game isn't even that engaging and TEDIOUS to play, have fun squeezing tiny gaps or vents for 20th time.

[Chrille 🎃]

Originally posted by Motive:

Originally posted by Lardo:

Oh please. If the game is broken on launch, a single glance on the Steam rating will let you know, without fail. This alone makes it the best thing since sliced bread. You're just butthurt that the rating doesn't correspond to your personal opinion.

It's not just broken product, the game isn't even that engaging and TEDIOUS to play, have fun squeezing tiny gaps or vents for 20th time.

Yep, this game is piss poor and people defending it have no standards what so ever.

[Kapy]

Dead Space is a great game with a good remake, but it's also a dead/finished series.
Which is why we need new IPs.

Your opinion on not liking this game is valid, obviously.
But when you guys talk about people not having standards for liking this game, which does have redeeming qualities as I mentioned above, then please keep in mind we live in an age of gaming which is dominated by early access titles, yearly assassins creed/fifa/cod ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, remakes that rarely improve more than just textures with some exceptions, false advertisement and scamming of players because of poor legislation..

And then you ♥♥♥♥ on a new IP that has admittedly issues,
but is one of the very few high-budget horror titles in a sea of indies.

Think about it.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Ludus Aurea:

Callisto Protocol definitely isn't a 10, I'd say more like an 8 which is still good.

If you haven't played any iteration of Dead Space and you're brand new to pc horror games, Callisto could definitely be an 8.

If that scenario doesn't apply, it needs a lot of help and work to be an 8. After waiting long enough for a good sale and experiencing many other horror games over the past 35 years, Callisto gets a solid 6 mostly for the graphics. I did play the game in stereoscopic 3D as well after a 3D fix came out via Helix Mod for real 3D Vision hardware.

It just misses the mark in more than one way which is an already beaten and dead horse on these forums.

[Murderfist]

yes god forbid people be critical to a game that 100% deserves it. because if we try to play the middle of the road the people who made this game will look at it like "oh so we CAN get away with mediocre slop" and then if they did get a sequel it would be more of the same rather than seeing all the criticism and creating a list of what to do and not to do for the next one ..yeah play it safe and try to play middle of the road and they will just do the same crap all over again dude. what i mainoly see people saying about this game is..
great visuals
great sound
great setting
story potential was there but mostly fumbled

so the settings, visuals, sound design, creature design (what little there was) was all on point but where they dropped the ball was compelling characters and a solid story with an actual ending and no the DLC ending isnt an ending its a slap in the face to the buyers for not worshiping their game as the 2nd coming of christ. schofield has proven he has either lost touch with reality or his dead space success wasnt just him like people make it out to be, it was a whole unique team of people that cant be recreated. there is a reason glenn left striking distance a few months after callisto, maybe without him if they do get a sequel they can actually make something great, from all the behind the scenes they showed it looked like glenn had too many hands in the cookie jar instead of letting talented people he was in charge of cook

[Kapy]

"because if we try to play the middle of the road the people who made this game will look at it like "oh so we CAN get away with mediocre slop" "
Unfortunately, huge companies like ubisoft and EA are getting away with mediocre slop. Regularly. Takes quite a while for people to learn actually

[Lardo]

Originally posted by Kapy:

Have you read what I've written, Lardo?
I'm not denying that the game had tons of technical issues. In fact, in the third sentence of my post I admit that this game had a lot of things that it could be criticized for.

But at the same time, the gaming community chokes on remakes, bad releases, false advertisement, overhype, never finished early access titles.

I just wished, people would have been more lenient and patient with these developers.
That someone would have said, hey it's a new IP, great graphics, a chillingly beautiful theme song(Kings Elliot - Lost again), unreal engine 4, non-indie horror and it's janky on lots of hardware, but they will fix it. Just return it with steam refund, go back at it in two weeks.

And I bet that situation would have been the best outcome for all parties. Developers and players.

But instead we got reviewbombs and rage videos on youtube. That generates clicks.
I hope you can understand my frustration.

I have read it. It's an all-over-the-place rant with no clear point, the only thing I understood from it is you're blaming the "community" and Steam reviews for it. I thought it's a totally misguided BS, so that's what I said. I agree with some of your points, like the one that people don't support quality SP gaming releases enough, but this has nothing to do with "community" and reviews. Steam has more than enough tools to provide the best experience, like filtering highest rated reviews, not counting people who got the game for free, showing how long a person played it, etc., etc. I just don't get what's there to hate.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Kapy:

I just wished, people would have been more lenient and patient with these developers.

For $60 which many slave away to get, you don't get lenient and patient. For $60, that $#it better be ace. $19.99 would have earned lenient and patient.

For what they offered back in Dec. 2022 riddled with Denuvo malware, all of the stuttering caused by the extra unnecessary DRM and obviously not ready, it should have cost $25.

The greed addiction creates a form of blindness. Devs and some of the larger companies don't seem bright enough to see it, and consumers are always going to turn into an angry mob as evidenced here and every other game bogged down by Denuvo, the stuttering it creates, and the greed addiction program which inspired its inclusion.

This game got exactly what it deserved. Basically an overpriced, clunky, slow crawling, boring hallway boxing cashgrab which only makes you wish you had a new Dead Space game the majority of the time you're playing it. I spent $5.32 on a post-Denuvo steam key so it still feels like a win - but I was still wishing it was a new DS game.