The Callisto Protocol

The Callisto Protocol

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AILAD May 27, 2023 @ 10:52pm
Did they improve the combat since release?
Or is it still the same boxing match in space?
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Sassanid May 27, 2023 @ 11:05pm 
It's more like a street fight than a boxing match. You can use batons and stomp on enemies heads like a good night out on the town after a few drinks.
Originally posted by RevelationSpace:
Or is it still the same boxing match in space?

Combat mechanics do not change with updates. It’s still a boxing match in space. Yeah even if it’s a mob vs you. Don’t fret, the other enemies will just conveniently watch you take them on one by one with your trusty baton.

Last edited by ✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉; May 30, 2023 @ 9:38am
Interl@ce May 28, 2023 @ 3:57am 
Good luck getting to riot wave 40 or through the hardest difficulties without ever switching to a (shot)gun, grp, rage mode or more; it can be far from a boring combat experience and even satisfying if you let it.

(and a more technical answer would be yes they tweaked and improved a lot of indeed insignificant little things that add up to an improvement while adding full dismemberment, rage and more.)
Last edited by Interl@ce; May 28, 2023 @ 9:37am
mdesaleah May 28, 2023 @ 9:57am 
Still a boring dodge boxing match.

And they can't just change it without pretty much making a completely different game
Interl@ce May 28, 2023 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by mdesaleah:
Still a boring dodge boxing match.

And they can't just change it without pretty much making a completely different game

Yeah as much as Sonic games are "boring" jump and run affairs.. so did you play it?

Cus with over 18.000+ forum posts I was convinced to find some earlier reactions around, but a welcome to your first one in this community it is!

Ever heard of the weapons there, the grp and powerups btw?
Last edited by Interl@ce; May 28, 2023 @ 10:28am
mdesaleah May 28, 2023 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Interl@ce:
Originally posted by mdesaleah:
Still a boring dodge boxing match.

And they can't just change it without pretty much making a completely different game

Yeah as much as Sonic games are "boring" jump and run affairs.. so did you play it?

Cus with over 18.000+ forum posts I was convinced to find some earlier reactions around, but a welcome to your first one in this community it is!

Ever heard of the weapons there, the grp and powerups btw?
Who are you xD? Is this a case of rent free?

Also, the fact that you can hold to dodge speaks for the combat itself.

I still wouldn’t say the combat was good even without that, but having you at least need to time your dodge like most other games would at least make it better.

If you’re gonna market it as “Dead Space with new combat”, then the new combat better be better considering that’s what they are changing drastically
Last edited by mdesaleah; May 28, 2023 @ 2:35pm
Scriptimus May 29, 2023 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by mdesaleah:
Still a boring dodge boxing match.

And they can't just change it without pretty much making a completely different game
Cha cha slide in space feat. Tyson.
AILAD May 29, 2023 @ 10:59pm 
So I decided to get it because of the sale and man... it's even worse than people described.

Only thing that's good is the graphics and maybe the acting. Everything else is very poorly thought out. And some stuff had no thought put into it whatsoever, like the combat. The most annoying thing is the lack of FOV slider. I'm spending the whole game rotating the camera sideways to see what's in front of me.

Originally posted by ✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉:
the other enemies will just conveniently watch you take on one by one with your trusty baton.

This is so funny. What were they thinking when they made this game?
Last edited by AILAD; May 30, 2023 @ 12:33am
segrand May 30, 2023 @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by RevelationSpace:

This is so funny. What were they thinking when they made this game?

They thinking about you because they want to see how mad you will be after playing this game still even if you dont like it xD
AILAD May 30, 2023 @ 1:30am 
Yeah, I missed the 2 hour refund window by a little bit unfortunately... I'm playing now just to see how much worse the game can get.

At the waste disposal and half the game is crawling through tunnels.

By the way, the combat, I can literally do it with my eyes closed. Hold left, wait till you hear the swing sound, hold right, attack twice, repeat. Playing on Hardcore...

Amazing.
Last edited by AILAD; May 30, 2023 @ 5:37am
segrand May 30, 2023 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by RevelationSpace:
By the way, the combat, I can literally do it with my eyes closed. Hold left, wait till you hear the swing sound, hold right, attack twice, repeat.

Amazing.

i know right!
Originally posted by RevelationSpace:
Originally posted by ✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉:
the other enemies will just conveniently watch you take on one by one with your trusty baton.

This is so funny. What were they thinking when they made this game?

Well many of us have been telling people on the boards how much core issues within the game which will never be solved such as combat, level design, enemy variety, and literally 0 originality or story creativity.

The fact is this game was rushed out by Glen because they wanted to capitalise on the DS craze and wanted to gobble up the majority of the DS fan base promising the following:
1) spiritual successor to DS
2) first ever AAAA game
3) made by Glen and team (the original creators of DS)
4) new and improved survival horror

As you may have guessed none of the above hit any milestones. If one were to take this game separately and not compare it to DS obviously this game isn’t that bad as graphics and audio makes up for it. However the core issues as highlighted above cannot be denied and as such i have rated it a mediocre game that should only be gotten off the bargain bin. 40% is still a steal at least on the publishers and devs side.
Last edited by ✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉; May 30, 2023 @ 6:40am
mdesaleah May 30, 2023 @ 7:13am 
Roadmaps often cant fix a flawed base.

Like, you can add as much content and optional challenges, but its impossible to fix the combat and level design entirely without just making a different game completely.

Instead of only marketing the graphics and how good they look, they should have first asked if the combat and enemies are scary or fun to fight. Only then do you polish up the graphics.
Wiesshund May 31, 2023 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by RevelationSpace:

Originally posted by ✪ Wuhan Warrior 🍉🍉:
the other enemies will just conveniently watch you take on one by one with your trusty baton.

This is so funny. What were they thinking when they made this game?

That was not what they were thinking, that came later in a patch, due to play complaints of monsters ganging up on them and making it too hard.

One of those be careful what you ask for things i suppose you might say, along with the easier dodging.
Initially, you dodged wrong, you got hit, even if you were dodging.
mdesaleah May 31, 2023 @ 5:17pm 
Originally posted by Wiesshund:
Originally posted by RevelationSpace:



This is so funny. What were they thinking when they made this game?

That was not what they were thinking, that came later in a patch, due to play complaints of monsters ganging up on them and making it too hard.

One of those be careful what you ask for things i suppose you might say, along with the easier dodging.
Initially, you dodged wrong, you got hit, even if you were dodging.
What probably happened is that they ran into a corner with their poor combat system.

Since you can only lock-on to one enemy and the focus is on melee and dodges, then the enemies either swarm you and it feels unfair, or the enemies wait their turns patiently which makes them look silly.

You'd think horror devs would learn what not to do from Silent Hill Homecoming, but I guess history repeats itself.

Its a weird line between intentionally underpowering combat (classic RE/SH), and just bad combat (Homecoming/Callisto). Dead Space original also did that well, where you have the tools, but you're just not as smooth in mobility that theres always a chance you'll mess up and thats how things get scary.
Last edited by mdesaleah; May 31, 2023 @ 5:37pm
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