Why is the HDR in this game so awful?

[Danny_G13]

The HDR seems non-existent, and completely washed out. Or have I got my settings wrong?

[stardust]

Seems your monitor is ♥♥♥♥, on my G8 OLED the HDR is superb.

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by Blacksmith77K:

Good question. I play HDR via HDMI on a SAMSUNG UHD TV. It works as it should. not washed out, no black crush, nothing.

What TV model?

[Frosty]

The only issue I have with the HDR is that it sometimes causes Windows to be funky when I Alt-Tab and/or am trying to stream the game for a few friends on Discord. Other than that it does seem to improve it, though I don't know if it was by a massive amount?

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by Frosty:

The only issue I have with the HDR is that it sometimes causes Windows to be funky when I Alt-Tab and/or am trying to stream the game for a few friends on Discord. Other than that it does seem to improve it, though I don't know if it was by a massive amount?

Issue I have with it isn't the brights, they look strong, it's the blacks - they're too grey. The dark areas don't seem inky black enough, which isn't an issue in any other HDR game I've played. I did adjust it a bit just there and it improved, but not a lot.

I always find things like this completely subjective - what one person thinks looks great, another doesn't and vice versa.

[VESPA5]

What kind of monitor do you have? And did you adjust the HDR to the max nits of your monitor? I'd say HDR 600 or higher and maybe it'll look decent. But if you have a bare bones HDR 400 monitor, you might as well just stick to SDR format.

[Captain_Cole]

I've been playing this on my Gigabyte F048U OLED monitor and it looks great with HDR.
No black crush: Check
Blinding lights in places: Check
Not washed out: Check.
I raised brightness a touch and lowered black levels using the in game menu.
I will add that when they first introduced HDR it was terrible.

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by VESPA5:

What kind of monitor do you have? And did you adjust the HDR to the max nits of your monitor? I'd say HDR 600 or higher and maybe it'll look decent. But if you have a bare bones HDR 400 monitor, you might as well just stick to SDR format.

MSI mpg321ur-qd. It's a good monitor. I have up to 2000 nits on this game - I'm not an expert on HDR tbf!

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by Captain_Cole:

I've been playing this on my Gigabyte F048U OLED monitor and it looks great with HDR.
No black crush: Check
Blinding lights in places: Check
Not washed out: Check.
I raised brightness a touch and lowered black levels using the in game menu.
I will add that when they first introduced HDR it was terrible.

They as in this game's devs?

[Captain_Cole]

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

Originally posted by Captain_Cole:

I've been playing this on my Gigabyte F048U OLED monitor and it looks great with HDR.
No black crush: Check
Blinding lights in places: Check
Not washed out: Check.
I raised brightness a touch and lowered black levels using the in game menu.
I will add that when they first introduced HDR it was terrible.

They as in this game's devs?

When the game received it first patch with native HDR support it was a bad experience. It was washed out and any adjustment to the sliders would result it either a more washed out image or sever black crush. Since then, it has improved alot. They would refer to the developers who made the game and introduced native HDR support.

[stardust]

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

Originally posted by VESPA5:

What kind of monitor do you have? And did you adjust the HDR to the max nits of your monitor? I'd say HDR 600 or higher and maybe it'll look decent. But if you have a bare bones HDR 400 monitor, you might as well just stick to SDR format.

MSI mpg321ur-qd. It's a good monitor. I have up to 2000 nits on this game - I'm not an expert on HDR tbf!

Just as I though your monitor is garbage for HDR. It's an IPS which is terrible in terms of contrast, absolutely the worst in the display tech. Also, you don't have 2000 nits, your display is HDR600, which is average at best. For proper HDR you need at least HDR 1000 and a monitor with good contrast or superb like OLED displays. I have a Odyssey G7 HDR600 monitor and while it looks ok(ish) it looks garbage in comparison to my Odyssey G8 OLED with infinite contrast and HDR 1000.

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by Captain_Cole:

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

They as in this game's devs?

When the game received it first patch with native HDR support it was a bad experience. It was washed out and any adjustment to the sliders would result it either a more washed out image or sever black crush. Since then, it has improved alot. They would refer to the developers who made the game and introduced native HDR support.

Interesting that the problems you say happened at the start seem to still be affecting my setup but are fixed for everyone else! Oh well. It's not a game-killer, and I did adjust, but what I'm noticing is the blacks look grey when there's a light in the area as if the HDR isn't quite working as it should.

I have no issues in any other game's HDR.

[Mattee]

When you say washed out are you referring to the Steam overlay?

[Danny_G13]

Originally posted by Mattee:

When you say washed out are you referring to the Steam overlay?

No, the game.

I just booted up Dead Space HDR, it looked magnificent. Inky blacks, sharp vibrant whites and lights, the way it should.

While Callisto just doesn't look right in HDR.

Maybe it is the one game on planet earth that doesn't work well on my monitor...

[PølseJuice]

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

Originally posted by Captain_Cole:

When the game received it first patch with native HDR support it was a bad experience. It was washed out and any adjustment to the sliders would result it either a more washed out image or sever black crush. Since then, it has improved alot. They would refer to the developers who made the game and introduced native HDR support.

Interesting that the problems you say happened at the start seem to still be affecting my setup but are fixed for everyone else! Oh well. It's not a game-killer, and I did adjust, but what I'm noticing is the blacks look grey when there's a light in the area as if the HDR isn't quite working as it should.

I have no issues in any other game's HDR.

Well i can say for sure that i got one of the best hdr monitors on the market Alienware dwf, and my game also looks slightly washed out with hdr 1000 nits enabled, where as any other game works perfectly with hdr. Game is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ^^

[micronauta]

Originally posted by PølseJuice:

Originally posted by Danny_G13:

Interesting that the problems you say happened at the start seem to still be affecting my setup but are fixed for everyone else! Oh well. It's not a game-killer, and I did adjust, but what I'm noticing is the blacks look grey when there's a light in the area as if the HDR isn't quite working as it should.

I have no issues in any other game's HDR.

Well i can say for sure that i got one of the best hdr monitors on the market Alienware dwf, and my game also looks slightly washed out with hdr 1000 nits enabled, where as any other game works perfectly with hdr. Game is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ^^

I have dwf and hdr Is very good..black Is black..i use the hdr setting in menù,and push the black level ti minimum