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ItzTheDay Jan 28, 2023 @ 11:14am
Why does FSR still make no difference?
Strix 4080 | 5800X | 5120x1440
High settings, no ray tracing, no FSR: 131 fps
High settings, no ray tracing, FSR Quality: 132 fps
High settings, no ray tracing, FSR Balance: 132 fps
High settings, no ray tracing, FSR Performance: 132 fps

High settings, all ray tracing, no FSR: 65 fps
High settings, all ray tracing, FSR Quality: 65 fps
High settings, all ray tracing on, FSR Balance: 65 fps
High settings, all ray tracing on, FSR Performance: 67 fps

The only thing that changes with FSR is horrible picture quality.
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Sleeper Service Jan 28, 2023 @ 11:22am 
Because FSR is AMD and you have an nVidia GPU. The game does not implement the nVidia equivalent and is written with backing by AMD.
Seamus Jan 28, 2023 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Sleeper Service:
Because FSR is AMD and you have an nVidia GPU. The game does not implement the nVidia equivalent and is written with backing by AMD.
FSR works fine on Nvidia gpus. The ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about.
Sleeper Service Jan 28, 2023 @ 12:03pm 
Not on the Op's it seems. And I didn't say it doesn't work on nVidia, I said the NVidia equivalent is not implemented. That's what the ♥♥♥♥ I'm talking about.
PlutoniumX Jan 28, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
probably still not fixed lol
Wiesshund Jan 28, 2023 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by ItzTheDay:
Strix 4080 | 5800X | 5120x1440
High settings, no ray tracing, no FSR: 131 fps
High settings, no ray tracing, FSR Quality: 132 fps
High settings, no ray tracing, FSR Balance: 132 fps
High settings, no ray tracing, FSR Performance: 132 fps

High settings, all ray tracing, no FSR: 65 fps
High settings, all ray tracing, FSR Quality: 65 fps
High settings, all ray tracing on, FSR Balance: 65 fps
High settings, all ray tracing on, FSR Performance: 67 fps

The only thing that changes with FSR is horrible picture quality.

Well for one, you dont appear to need FSR, so i would not use it.
It only make sense to turn on FSR if you get a big gain in frame rates
which you are probably only going to get if you enable dynamic resolution also
and i dont think it would be worth your effort.

Your FPS are going towards rendering the ultrawide resolution and its large pixel increase
JackGamer Jan 28, 2023 @ 3:41pm 
I have the same "issue" on my 4090 / 7950x.

Native 4K max settings, no RT, 101 fps (with RT 61 fps).
4K FSR 2 Quality, max settings, no RT: 103 fps (with RT 59 fps).

My GPU isnt being fully utilized all the time.. So its probably because the CPU is holding back the GPU.

When the CPU is the bottleneck using FSR or DLSS wont give you any more fps.

With RT on, we know that the CPU really only fills up two cores.

I wasnt expecting there to be a CPU bottleneck also at native 4K, because I never testet it.

I would say that with RT on its poor CPU utilization from the developer.

At native 4K its probably also poor CPU utilization or its just a case of your CPU not beeing powerfull enough for the GPU.

My 4090 is to powerfull for my 7950x in many games at 1440p. And in some in 4K. Or you can say that my 4090 has exposed poor CPU utilizations in many games.

We need more powerfull CPUs and developers to be aware of Cpu underutilization.
Last edited by JackGamer; Jan 28, 2023 @ 3:51pm
Seamus Jan 28, 2023 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by Sleeper Service:
Not on the Op's it seems. And I didn't say it doesn't work on nVidia, I said the NVidia equivalent is not implemented. That's what the ♥♥♥♥ I'm talking about.
Okay, except your statement implied that because FSR is AMD tech and OP is on Nvidia, that the difference somehow matters. See?
Originally posted by Sleeper Service:
Because FSR is AMD and you have an nVidia GPU.
It doesn't.

The tech is platform agnostic. OP could have one of the intel arc cards and that facet wouldn't matter.

The game not having DLSS isn't relevant.
Wiesshund Jan 28, 2023 @ 4:34pm 
go set the game resolution to 640 x 480 and see what happens
(besides looking hella ugly)
You should start getting stupid stuff like this
(except not in the menu of course, about half that in game running round the colony)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2924590428

I dont think your CPU itself is holding you back
now the game's engine (or implementation of) may be
they did kind of make it with the intention of 30 and 60 fps and i am not sure if they have really put anything into optimizing it to purposely run beyond that? just to try to maintain that.
Which i mean is fine given that it is a single player, not exactly shooter game.
That is normally what i run it at and freesync the monitor to it.
Makes it feel much smoother that going from 140 fps to 75 fps and back.
60 fps is smooth, when it is constant, banging from 140 to 75 and back may be higher FPS
on paper, but the effect is jarring, like slapping your brakes on the highway and eating the dashboard.
Syynx Jan 28, 2023 @ 4:40pm 
Nvidia users: LOL AMD cards don't support DLSS XDDD
Also Nvidia users: Why doesn't FSR work on my caaaaarrrrrrd T_T
Wiesshund Jan 28, 2023 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Syynx:
Nvidia users: LOL AMD cards don't support DLSS XDDD
Semi fair point
AMD could not support it if they wanted to, unless they enjoy patent lawsuits

Originally posted by Syynx:
Also Nvidia users: Why doesn't FSR work on my caaaaarrrrrrd T_T

Well, it does, if the card is slow enough to need it, though i suppose an nvidia user
could turn fsr off entirely and use their equivalent to RSR instead?
Sleeper Service Jan 28, 2023 @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by Seamus:
Originally posted by Sleeper Service:
Not on the Op's it seems. And I didn't say it doesn't work on nVidia, I said the NVidia equivalent is not implemented. That's what the ♥♥♥♥ I'm talking about.
Okay, except your statement implied that because FSR is AMD tech and OP is on Nvidia, that the difference somehow matters. See?
Originally posted by Sleeper Service:
Because FSR is AMD and you have an nVidia GPU.
It doesn't.

The tech is platform agnostic. OP could have one of the intel arc cards and that facet wouldn't matter.

The game not having DLSS isn't relevant.

That's better, no need to start effing and geoffing all over the place at the slightest thing you misunderstand.

Live long and prosper :steamthumbsup:
Seamus Jan 29, 2023 @ 12:16am 
Originally posted by Sleeper Service:
That's better, no need to start effing and geoffing all over the place at the slightest thing you misunderstand.

Live long and prosper :steamthumbsup:
So, your statement served no purpose then. Good to know.
il Boh Jan 29, 2023 @ 1:33am 
FSR work fine on my RTX4090, benchmark screenshots on my profile, maybe you have nvidia reflex active? I remember a similar issue with reflex...
Cryiox Jan 31, 2023 @ 3:32pm 
Y'all are CPU bound, stop being so surprised.
Wiesshund Jan 31, 2023 @ 8:39pm 
Originally posted by Cryiox:
Y'all are CPU bound, stop being so surprised.

Yes, my CPU cant make more than 345 fps
it's so terrible
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