I have a 4090, PC or PS5?

[WhyKlef]

Am I still before off refunding and getting the PS5 version? DualSense seems like a fun addition to the game, how important is aiming in this title?

[ᴅɪᴅᴅʟᴇʏ]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von WhyKlef:

Am I still before off refunding and getting the PS5 version? DualSense seems like a fun addition to the game, how important is aiming in this title?

Dualsense should be supported as long as you plug in your controller directly. Regarding controller vs kb+m, the majority of people I've seen have played with controller, but I honestly found it significantly more intuitive and enjoyable with kb+m as a result of the over the shoulder camera.

[Zanthor]

On Friday I was getting under 60FPS with my 4090. I noticed a patch came through in the evening when I stopped playing. I played again today and seems that patch fixed the game. I'm now averaging nearly 150FPS on Ultra settings.

[twiggy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Cylotron:

On Friday I was getting under 60FPS with my 4090. I noticed a patch came through in the evening when I stopped playing. I played again today and seems that patch fixed the game. I'm now averaging nearly 150FPS on Ultra settings.

4090 with no ray tracing and fsr? lol

[WhyKlef]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ᴅɪᴅᴅʟᴇʏ:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von WhyKlef:

Am I still before off refunding and getting the PS5 version? DualSense seems like a fun addition to the game, how important is aiming in this title?

Dualsense should be supported as long as you plug in your controller directly. Regarding controller vs kb+m, the majority of people I've seen have played with controller, but I honestly found it significantly more intuitive and enjoyable with kb+m as a result of the over the shoulder camera.

Actually, it is not the case with this game unfortunately. In fact, playing with a DualSense controller doesn't even show the Playstation controller mappings, it shows as if you are playing with a Xbox controller. The vibrations are definitely better using the PS5 controller but the triggers don't do anything out of ordinary as they apparently do on PS5.

[Johnnius]

4090+5950x

I have it on my partners account, anyway pre patch it ran like crap, the worst newly released game I have ever played, I only stomached around 40 minutes of play.

Tried again last night with fresh drivers and I cleaned out the dx cache so I could compare properly. I'm happy to report that it is 99% stutter free now and the stutters that do occur are very minimal and barely noticeable.

This is at 4k with motion blur and film grain disabled, no upscaling.

With rt on however performance is not adequate, I can just about lock 60fps but there's some Gpu headroom left (Cpu bound at 4k!) and I believe with optimisation it should be 75-80fps locked, frame times aren't bad but not buttery smooth.

With rt off everything else maxxed I'm nearly always over 100fps, generally at my framerate cap of 117fps and gameplay is very smooth, this is how I'm playing it until rt is optimised.

[Zurv]

4090 has no problem with 4k (assuming the rest of the computer is also has good)
That is with full RT on too.

https://youtu.be/MYCg7GbCsNk

[ShotgunHobo]

Use FSr 2, Use high settings, never max settings, avoid RT, because it runs like ♥♥♥♥ on console and PC, non RT still looks better than 99 of games out there and the non RT PS5 version 60 fps mode is blurry anyway and runs 1440p with drops to 50 fps occassionally. nobody cares. just enjoy. and it will ruin 1440p 120hz on a 4090 on high settings anyway, hell even 4K. now stfu and enjoy the game. and stop thinking maximum settings ever made sense in any game. there´s a reason these max settings always been and were fps killers and PC only. basically settings for the stupid and rich.

[Jootn]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zurv:

4090 has no problem with 4k (assuming the rest of the computer is also has good)
That is with full RT on too.

https://youtu.be/MYCg7GbCsNk

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ im having same setup with a 5800x3d and in this part youll only get around 60fps with RT on. You turned off RT or youre using dx11

[pillowcase]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zurv:

4090 has no problem with 4k (assuming the rest of the computer is also has good)
That is with full RT on too.

https://youtu.be/MYCg7GbCsNk

The title of the video says Ray Tracing but the video goes into options and there you see RT is off. The 4090 can easily get 90-100+ fps with RT off. Of course there are still drops in FPS once you get into the first act or so.

With RT settings on I get 50-80 fps in heavy areas but its not consistent unless I lock it at 60 and then it still drops fps at times. So therefore I just lock it to 120 and the drops are not so noticeable unless a stutter from shaders loading happens at the same time of an fps spike.

[slash1276]

I have a 3090 and the stuttering is still there...even with the new patch. I play in 5120x1440. In short, on PC it is always catastrophic!

[ShotgunHobo]

RT can cause CPU BOTTLENECKS even on MONSTER CPU´s with RT on because the game is coded like DOG*HIT. because that what you get for spending 2k on a gpu and 500 on a cpu when you know, they dont pay off in games that are optimized for 30fps. guess what? that´s exactly why you never buy halo products and beta test them, never buy software at release and never trust developers making the right priority choices whenever a game is graphically fancy. in case you missed the memo. plague talke requiem, callisto, all run awful even on consoles, these devs want you to focus on the 30 to 60 fps experience. they dont know the term high refresh rate gaming, because they are a bunch of delusional ♥♥♥♥♥ who sit on the couch with the switch playing 24 fps in 720p with their kids accepting stutters to be common.

[ShotgunHobo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von slash1276:

I have a 3090 and the stuttering is still there...even with the new patch. I play in 5120x1440. In short, on PC it is always catastrophic!

it´s not. you just wait until patches are out and then you enjoy the bloody game. deathloop had suttering issues, boom 1 month later fixed. when i was 14, i learned: any software is a early access beta test that runs like sh*t. you always gotta wait. look at no mans sky, look at the hopeful examples of how bad software can be turned around. callisto is not a bad game, nor its it a catastrophe. all it needs is some fixing by the engineering team on framepacing. which sucks on console too, i mean if even the PS5 drops to 45 to 50 fps in some scenes with medium settings at 1440p, what do you think happens in general? and thats without RT, because thje cpu bottleneck with RT in UNREAL GARBAGE ENGINE on the consoles ryzen 3700 is basically dropping below 60 fps. yes, you heard me right, a ryzen 3000 cpu is not capable of pushing RT above 60.

Guess what, that´s the price of raytracing. HIGH CPU SINGLETHREAD DEMANDS. something consoles cant fulfill, gpu and cpu wise and even on PC, modern cp´s arent equipped to handle.

that RDNA2 chip Ryzen 3700+RX6800 can only push 30 fps on the cpu with RT on? and only 1440p medium/high without RT? of course the game is a hardware killer. that´s why i always wait until my next hardware upgrade before playing any triple A big release. cyberpunk anyone? decent game. but we all know how it ran at release. my ryzen 5800x dropped the gpu usage to 70% on my 3080 when i had RT on and was driving through the city. 65 fps cpu bottleneck. once RT is off: boom 130 fps. RT is EXTREME on the CPU, much more than even the GPU sometimes. because the gpu gets help from upsampling techniques. the cpu has to bruteforce everything.

[Ragnar Losbroek]

You'll have to upgrade your GPU.

[ShotgunHobo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ragnar Losbroek:

You'll have to upgrade your GPU.

big brain move, i want 60 fps cpu bottleneck in RT on my 4090 so i will get a 60 fps cpu bottleneck in RT on my RTX 5090! <3

[n050up4u]

4090, 32gb ram, 5900x, 980pro, not a LOT of stuttering, but it exists. Performance seems inconsistent with or without RT.