Holy s---. Ludern.

[ahsanford]

See subject.

That is all.

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[KocLobster]

Care to elaborate?

[ahsanford]

Completed Tiltren, Arthes, Vertruse (in that order) and now I'm in Ludern.

Seems like a solid 2x jump in difficulty. I am surrounded with places I will not survive as I am sitting L5-L6 against large L8 groups. Super inhospitable environment, some new health risks and towns don't have all services (so medicine and spare parts involve a trek).

I don't want to spoil some of the cool new stuff in that area, but that too is also insanely challenging.

I like a challenge, I do, but Ludern is a huge bump up. I need to get everyone to L7 and doing it from within Ludern seems like it will be very hard and very slow.

It's sufficiently frustrating that I am pondering going back to greener pastures to knock out a few bandit camps or do some Vertruse arena time.

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[ahsanford]

Any 1-2 of the things below...

Incomplete towns and a lot of walking
Packs routinely 2+ levels higher than I am
A certain new type of roving enemy
Huge roving enemy pack size
Very difficult to move around, lots of ambush choke points
A new challenging type of 'mission town'

...would be a nice change from the last zone I was in. But Ludern turns all of the above on at the same time. It's arguably too much at once.

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[Dumeka]

If its too high right now, go to gosenberg first and finish that, then come back later to finish ludern and after that go to alazar. :)

[Dala]

lol on the same situation, holy s* Ludern.

[funkmonster7]

Yeah this is what happens in region-locked difficulty...

[Wondervice]

Looking forward to it then, the game is extremely easy at the moment on Expert/Expert region locked.
Finished Titren and Arthas, I'm going through Vetruse now. I could count the actually challenging fights on one hand so far.

[ahsanford]

Originally posted by Dumeka:

If its too high right now, go to gosenberg first and finish that, then come back later to finish ludern and after that go to alazar. :)

Tried that. It’s worse. First pack in Gosenberg was L9!

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[Dala]

Originally posted by ahsanford:

Originally posted by Dumeka:

If its too high right now, go to gosenberg first and finish that, then come back later to finish ludern and after that go to alazar. :)

Tried that. It’s worse. First pack in Gosenberg was L9!

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Welp, guess I'm not gonna try that.

[Olleus]

It is a huge jump. I think the issue isn't that it's too hard, but that the 3rd region you do (be it Arthes or Vertruse) is too easy. There's a decent step from 1st to 2nd, a minuscule one from 2nd to 3rd, and then a huge one from 3rd to 4th. The solution is to bump the 3rd up a little and keep the progression steadier.

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Lmao. It's not that bad.

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[ahsanford]

Originally posted by Olleus:

It is a huge jump. I think the issue isn't that it's too hard, but that the 3rd region you do (be it Arthes or Vertruse) is too easy. There's a decent step from 1st to 2nd, a minuscule one from 2nd to 3rd, and then a huge one from 3rd to 4th. The solution is to bump the 3rd up a little and keep the progression steadier.

Agree 100%

Tiltren = steady

Arthes = you need to tiptoe a bit and pick your battles, but by the end you can take on anything there.

Vertruse = felt like Arthes all over again, but my party was more powerful -- I didn't coast but it wasn't hard.

Ludern = are you kidding mea

Bumping Vertruse (or zone 3 however they lock it) seems the missing piece. Or possibly trying out one of the weird/hard/unique things from Ludern in Vertruse instead.

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[Lightning]

I completed the same as you Tiltren > Arthes > Vertruse but now in that area to the right of Vertruse and the mobs are like 2 levels above me 8-9s when i'm 6-7s getting a bit difficult atm ha.

[Ruben[ESP]]

easiest way go luderns arena and buy the dummy each rest gives 5% exp to members asigned to it, its the fastest way to lvl up

[Artful Dodger]

I also found Ludern considerably more difficult than the previous regions, and probably more difficult than Grimneer being honest.

If I was to give you one tip, it's choose your engagements wisely. You are beyond the point of being able to take every fight that comes your way in the swamp.

A second would be to really start to master logistics between different clan camps, understand which have what facilities (some only have a forge, some only an alchemist etc) and manage your food. By now you should be able to consistently eat meals instead of just cooked basics.