Toilets

[Borfoid]

I know we are talking about medieval times where you used to crap out of the window, that's fine. But toilets seem like a pointless addition to my tavern.

I am about to research them, all they do is take up space and before I have them people don't need them.

So ... What's the point in researching toilets ? I am pulling in >12k a day with no toilets, I have to research toilets which looks like it just takes up space - so what is the net benefit in having toilets ?

I don't get it.

[Bill Brassky]

you'll be blocking the left/top path out of toilet of research tree. .xtra floor, upholstery.
& i think they order more food after dumping...

[Joe Coffee]

Originally posted by Bill Brassky:

you'll be blocking the left/top path out of toilet of research tree. .xtra floor, upholstery.
& i think they order more food after dumping...

Ironic "dumping" is used here.

Dumping syndrome is a medical condition in which your stomach empties its contents into the first part of your small intestine (the duodenum) faster than normal. Dumping syndrome is also known as rapid gastric emptying. People with dumping syndrome experience symptoms like nausea and abdominal cramping.

Source: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17835-dumping-syndrome[/quote\

[dom]

The toilets are awful. I had them up in the 3rd floor with the hotel rooms, and restaurant guests happily went up there. But then I tried to add a stair case to the 4th floor, well out of the way, and the game says that the guests can't use the toilets. And now it suddenly says it wants toilets on all the floors. But you can't put toilets in a floor that has any tables or benches etc. in it. So now what - make a big house of toilets?

[dom]

Originally posted by dom:

The toilets are awful. I had them up in the 3rd floor with the hotel rooms, and restaurant guests happily went up there. But then I tried to add a stair case to the 4th floor, well out of the way, and the game says that the guests can't use the toilets. And now it suddenly says it wants toilets on all the floors. But you can't put toilets in a floor that has any tables or benches etc. in it. So now what - make a big house of toilets?

I quit the game and came back and all was working again. Bug?

Ok, apparently the toilets need to be on your top floor. Since they can have a staircase going up to them, but not one going up higher from there.

[salzlaender]

Originally posted by dom:

The toilets are awful. I had them up in the 3rd floor with the hotel rooms, and restaurant guests happily went up there. But then I tried to add a stair case to the 4th floor, well out of the way, and the game says that the guests can't use the toilets. And now it suddenly says it wants toilets on all the floors. But you can't put toilets in a floor that has any tables or benches etc. in it. So now what - make a big house of toilets?

You can. I have toilets on 2nd floor with lots of seatings.
I also have toilets on third floor where 2nd floor guests go, but nobody goes up to third floor to sit on the luxury benches I placed there.

[Not You]

My toilets are on 1st,2nd and 4th floors. No problems other than people from 1st floor walk up to 4th because theres 1 person ahead of them in the poo queue

[jdpvagabond]

Yeah, having toilets so late in the tech tree doesn't make a whole lot of sense as up until that point no one cares. All it does is force you to reshuffle your design to accommodate a feature they didn't need. Maybe if it were closer to the start, with similar 'upgrades' and such along the way.

[Not You]

I think the whole research tree needs to be redone, big job though. I think it would be better to have a tree for each thing i.e. 1 for kitchens 1 for drinks etc, that way you choose which items are more important to you and get them done first.

[😎Astran😾]

The game is created by people who know how the modern cafes, bars and hotels work - and know pretty well from what I see (I have education to plan shop interiors and personnel). For the modern establishments - toilets are crucial.

btw "Starry night" (the bonus painting) - it does not belong to medieval times either.

[stogus]

I took it as a halfhearted attempt to increase the difficulty partway through the game. Not much use to it though

[Satai_Delenn]

Toilets in a Medieval game? Why didn't the developer add chamber pots?

OK, I just did some research and apparently, so did the developer (awesome job, Dev!) so it does appear that there would have been public and private toilets in those days, just not the way we would think of them today.

[krunjar]

I guess it's realistic in a way. It's like okay so you want to be a luxury tavern where the great and the good from the kingdom come to relax? Welp let me tell you something sunny jim bears might do their business in the woods but the king does NOT XD Standards are different for the royal watering hole and ye olde booze shack.