Atelier Mysterious DX Trilogy uses lower quality Switch Assets & Maps (for both PC & PS versions)

[General Plastro]

Just like Dragon Quest 11's Definitive Edition, these new atelier DX versions uses the Switch version as a base, so we are getting some lower quality effects and assets here and there:

DX:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834630098379997224/20210421231836_1.jpg

Original:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834630233218351104/Atelier_Sophie__The_Alchemist_of_the_Mysterious_Book__20210421231824.jpg

Missing Flower Fields:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834929417024307240/Untitled.png

It gets worse, apparently in Sophie DX it rains raw oil, since theres black puddles instead of water on rainy days:

http://puu.sh/HAU9o.png

As you can see, theres some missing shadows and lower tree quality in the DX version.

The same is true for Firis and L&S, sadly.

[iriyap]

Now I don't feel so bad about buying the old version of Sophie.

But I believe the old ports of Firis and L&S still had too many technical issues, so you're better off getting these new ones instead.

[Ezodagrom]

Първоначално публикувано от General Plastro:

The same is true for Firis and L&S, sadly.

I've been checking a bunch of videos from Firis and L&S from both originals and DX versions, unlike Sophie these 2 seem to be fine?

I think Sophie DX may be the only one that has been downgraded.

[General Plastro]

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The same is true for Firis and L&S, sadly.

I've been checking a bunch of videos from Firis and L&S from both originals and DX versions, unlike Sophie these 2 seem to be fine?

I think Sophie DX may be the only one that has been downgraded.

L&S has some problematic texture bugs as well:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834666818810937344/Atelier_Lydie___Suelle__The_Alchemists_and_the_Mysterious_Paintings_DX_20210422014612.jpg

[Ezodagrom]

Първоначално публикувано от General Plastro:

L&S has some problematic texture bugs as well:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834666818810937344/Atelier_Lydie___Suelle__The_Alchemists_and_the_Mysterious_Paintings_DX_20210422014612.jpg

Bugs are a different thing altogether and something that should be reported for them to fix, hmm.

When it comes to Sophie, I've been looking into more footage and it's looking like it was just that one location that was downgraded? Other locations that I've seen are looking fine when compared to the original (including trees and their shadows, though atm there's only videos of the early locations, of course).

[EssWC]

since unpackers exist for this engine i wonder if this could be fixed using those

[General Plastro]

Първоначално публикувано от Ezodagrom:

Първоначално публикувано от General Plastro:

L&S has some problematic texture bugs as well:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834666818810937344/Atelier_Lydie___Suelle__The_Alchemists_and_the_Mysterious_Paintings_DX_20210422014612.jpg

Bugs are a different thing altogether and something that should be reported for them to fix, hmm.

When it comes to Sophie, I've been looking into more footage and it's looking like it was just that one location that was downgraded? Other locations that I've seen are looking fine when compared to the original (including trees and their shadows, though atm there's only videos of the early locations, of course).

Well. that bug exists because its using the lower quality textures of the switch version on those ship sails.

Seems that out of the 3, L&S is the one less affected by it, Firis has some of the same problem (low quality trees and shadows) on the areas around Dona (the forest village), i forgot the name of the forest, but its the place where you meet Oskar for the first time). The game is also missing most of the myst effects as well.

In that place, if you had the "misty" climate, the framerate would dip on the plain PS4, so only PC and PS4 Pro could run it smoothly, one can imagine that the switch had to remove some effects due to that.

But as you said, sadly theres not much footage of DX games' the latter stages in any of the 3 games, so its hard to compare yet (and i am not gonna replay the entire trilogy just yet... lol)

[Ezodagrom]

Just saw a video from Lydie and Suelle DX PC also with that same sailboats bugs.

When it comes to Firis, I guess at least the DX version fixed the lighting when compared to the original PC version. But when it comes to that forest, I guess will have to wait until there's more footage to be able to compare.

At least it's nice knowing that these versions have problems, gonna wait until the trilogy gets cheaper, since I already have the originals and I'm not gonna have the time to play them any time soon anyway.

EDIT: For Sophie, what makes the changes in that specific location really weird is that not even the PS3 and Vita versions were like that.

PS3, original PC, PS5 DX (in that order):
https://i.imgur.com/a1celDU.jpg

And PSVita:
https://i.imgur.com/TxM5ffQ.jpg

[Prinny]

my only complaint is that there's no way to return to main menu or exit the game without using alt+F4

[General Plastro]

Първоначално публикувано от Ezodagrom:

Just saw a video from Lydie and Suelle DX PC also with that same sailboats bugs.

When it comes to Firis, I guess at least the DX version fixed the lighting when compared to the original PC version. But when it comes to that forest, I guess will have to wait until there's more footage to be able to compare.

At least it's nice knowing that these versions have problems, gonna wait until the trilogy gets cheaper, since I already have the originals and I'm not gonna have the time to play them any time soon anyway.

EDIT: For Sophie, what makes the changes in that specific location really weird is that not even the PS3 and Vita versions were like that.

PS3, original PC, PS5 DX (in that order):
https://i.imgur.com/a1celDU.jpg

And PSVita:
https://i.imgur.com/TxM5ffQ.jpg

Added new comparison from a atelier discord user, its looking worse by the minute :(

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834929417024307240/Untitled.png

[Kiru]

I mean.. it's not great that this happens, but sometimes I wonder why people even care so much. These games aren't exactly known to look great. Half of the gameplay is on the synthesis menu, 10% in battles. The rest you run from glowing gathering point to the next and have cutscenes.
I seriously doubt I would've figured out something is looking worse. The only thing I can definitely say is that the game isn't looking better. (at least Sophie still seems to be incredibly toaster friendly)

Speaking of toaster friendly, I doubt they needed to adapt Sophie of all things for the switch. Who knows what actually happened to cause some "issues".
Then again. It IS the Switch. Might even be weaker than a freakin' Ps3.

[iriyap]

Първоначално публикувано от General Plastro:

Added new comparison from a atelier discord user, its looking worse by the minute :(

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834929417024307240/Untitled.png

DAMN

Първоначално публикувано от Kiru:

Speaking of toaster friendly, I doubt they needed to adapt Sophie of all things for the switch. Who knows what actually happened to cause some "issues".
Then again. It IS the Switch. Might even be weaker than a freakin' Ps3.

Apparently the Switch version still stutters when playing undocked, so yeah they couldn't optimize a PS3 game for the Switch and just resorted to deleting assets.

[Ezodagrom]

Първоначално публикувано от General Plastro:

Added new comparison from a atelier discord user, its looking worse by the minute :(

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236388275567329280/834929417024307240/Untitled.png

Oof... that looks so bad...

[Laughing kookaburra]

sad release such DX
glad i dodged this crap

[Hermano]

Well, It's Koei again...

[Khorm]

Thanks for heads up. I already own first two games in trilogy, and was considering buying DX versions to replay with "improvements" lol.

Whatever you say about Koei Temco they do keep up their iron standards. No other company could withstand representing a rock bottom laughing stock for so long.