Magic seems weak?

[Razzen]

I was hoping this game would be like Elden Ring where magic is good, definitely good enough for you to pretty much rely on it most of the time, although you do run out of mana. In this game it seems that magic is just designed to be weak. No matter which magic you use it seems that a weapon will ALWAYS do more dmg.

So if magic is using a limited resource, but still does less dmg than a magic user just swinging a weapon... then what's the point of it? I've also noticed that ranged enemies have a much higher fire rate than your own character.

[Tetrapackable]

I'm guessing like in elden ring you will need accessories to get more oomph from magic.
There are some amulets and rings that increase sorcery power, make it possible to mix magic types etc

Also improving catalysts help though you need to find the blacksmith first.

Lastly there is a hidden umbral pure spellcasting class so that might make it even better.

[KeyboardBerserker]

I made inferno my only damage stat and its been pretty good. The second major boss (with a cutscene) is strong against it and that kinda sucks but after that it wrecks pretty well.

The cost for basic spells is pretty reasonable, they can be chucked a pretty long distance and do alright damage. They also give you magic regen consumables pretty often, I always have some on hand, more so than the life gem style consumables, thats for sure.

Being able to pick off a ranged before the encounter starts proper is such a boon.

[KeyboardBerserker]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

the flamethrower spell (only offensive fire spell ive found) does actually do very high damage and usually more DPS than my weapons (depending on fire resistance obviously). it just causes no stagger and has a long startup/ending lag so its not really usable unless enemy gets stuck on something or is very slow...

I've noticed that it is far easier to proc ignite with weapons than with inferno spells, though. Kinda strange.

[Celery]

Magic is insanely strong in this game to the point it's easy mode.

[Razzen]

Originally posted by Celery:

Magic is insanely strong in this game to the point it's easy mode.

Which magic? Because the spells I have simply don't provide enough dmg to be better than me swinging my weapon, even if my catalyst is upgraded further than my weapon. Although the flamethrower spell is very good in certain circumstances.

[Seri]

Would of been nice to have a mana pot like Elden Ring instead of having to farm souls or whatever for mana rocks

[Holy Father]

Originally posted by Celery:

Magic is insanely strong in this game to the point it's easy mode.

no arguments, no info ofc, just throw some random ♥♥♥♥ and be off
LOL

[KoD]

Originally posted by Holy Father:

Originally posted by Celery:

Magic is insanely strong in this game to the point it's easy mode.

no arguments, no info ofc, just throw some random ♥♥♥♥ and be off
LOL

Just like you. Doesn't even own the game, on top.

[Majere]

You need to keep an eye on the vendors and really hunt around for the best spells. Some of the late-game spells are extremely potent, like the Radiance spell that spawns a thundercloud that tracks enemies and zaps them with lightning every second or so. The regeneration spell is also extremely good since it heals pretty fast and stays up as long as you have mana to fuel it.

I've not tried Inferno or Umbral magic yet, but I'm sure they have some similarly nasty stuff. Possibly the biggest single issue in the game at the moment is that as well as the magic being powerful, there are enough melee weapons that scale with Radiance, Inferno or both that pure physical builds seem to be at a bit of a disadvantage.

[Zoe]

Latimer's Javelin from The Hushed Saint you get quite early in the game and is extremly strong used that until endgame and was busted

[KeyboardBerserker]

The inferno buffs actually last enough time to be pretty useful, as well.

[KoD]

Magma Surge is available early mid-game, deals ~1k dmg at inferno softcap + aoe dot and one shots all ranged mobs + pvp invaders until end game, including Bramis castle. "Magic is weak", no u.

[pRaX]

This is a joke thread right?

[Rena Ichigawa]

Magic can be insanely powerful. Depends on your setup, and what youre using. Things like the radiant beam feels like insane overkill against all but a few fights.

[KoD]

Originally posted by pRaX:

This is a joke thread right?

More like a "Skill issue" thread.