The sequel will be an utter failure on pc because...

[solaris32]

Because nobody buys games on epic. The sequel is going to be Epic exclusive. This means no one will buy the game on pc. It's also a slap in the face to us pc players that bought the game and defended you all these years and praised you for your tireless efforts to fix and improve the game, making what I consider the best souls game period. All this will be destroyed if you go Epic exclusive for the sequel.

Look at Alan Wake 2, that game still hasn't made a profit on pc a year later because it's an Epic exclusive and no one bought it on Epic.

Do whatever it takes to break your contract with Epic and save your company and your reputation.

Thank you for reading.

I don't understand how the CEO is so based yet made a deal with Epic to forsake his biggest fans.

[Froggus_Maximus]

If this is actually true and its going to be epic games only forever, the devs are actually stupid. I played this game a couple months ago and I honestly though it was amazing. It kind of combines all the cool mechanics from all the fromsoft games into one game while still feeling unique enough to be different. No chance in hell I'm buying the sequel on epic tho.

[zippydsmlee]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Operator Domsch:

I´d rather let dev studios die, than support Epic ever again.
The Alan Wake 2 case makes lmao.

Eh witchfire was, that strange fps was pretty neat, the trouble is many studios went woke, its all dependent on how out of touch the studio is.

[ArcKnight]

I was considering buying this since it seems to get talked about a lot post-updates. Glad I learned about this store-exclusive junk for the sequel. I'll pass on this, too. Shame.

[Iris Heart]

well, I'm not buying it on epic, and if it comes crawling back to steam, I'll only consider it at 50% off at least.

[CyCloud]

We might never get Lords of the Fallen 2 on Steam, but depending on the deal/contracts, Lords of the Fallen DOS - Lording the Fallen Harder Edition might make it to Steam after all. :3
Depends on the wording. There is always a loophole!

[Savager]

Yep, it will fail af on PC just bcs of this. CEO is a fraud, he always says "players first" "players matter" etc. And then he endorses Epic making this game exclusive saying "they are so cool, they are literally funding this game". Dude! Steam players are your PC playerbase, they are the ones playing the game on PC and even if player numbers are not that high as other Souls games i guess they are good enough for you to make patches and updates through the year and pretty frequently at that. If he made one of his stupid polls with Steam or Epic i can guarantee that Steam would win unless he paid bots to vote for Epic.

Sequel is a no buy from me, i am not using Epic and never did. I dont care about free games bcs many of them were already in my Steam library. I wont use Epic just for one single game and a sequel to Steam game at that.

Also there is a good reason why not many devs are doing Epics exclusivity these days anymore. Gearbox learned it (B4 is day one on Steam), Ubisoft learned it(day one new games on Steam with added achievements). Its still insane to me that Remedy was in such a bad spot that they needed Epic to fund their game but it is what it is. Besides Remedy there is no one who is sucking Epic off anymore bcs its not profitable in the long run. Cant wait when the CEO cries that pirates are the reason for poor sales or something. First game might not have been massive success here sure, but can you imagine how bad will sales be on Epic? Lmao.

[TheGreatPugtato]

Ya I'd rather eat a hand grenade than use Epic. Never have and never will.

[Jill Valentine]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Savager:

Yep, it will fail af on PC just bcs of this. CEO is a fraud, he always says "players first" "players matter" etc. And then he endorses Epic making this game exclusive saying "they are so cool, they are literally funding this game". Dude! Steam players are your PC playerbase, they are the ones playing the game on PC and even if player numbers are not that high as other Souls games i guess they are good enough for you to make patches and updates through the year and pretty frequently at that. If he made one of his stupid polls with Steam or Epic i can guarantee that Steam would win unless he paid bots to vote for Epic.

Sequel is a no buy from me, i am not using Epic and never did. I dont care about free games bcs many of them were already in my Steam library. I wont use Epic just for one single game and a sequel to Steam game at that.

Also there is a good reason why not many devs are doing Epics exclusivity these days anymore. Gearbox learned it (B4 is day one on Steam), Ubisoft learned it(day one new games on Steam with added achievements). Its still insane to me that Remedy was in such a bad spot that they needed Epic to fund their game but it is what it is. Besides Remedy there is no one who is sucking Epic off anymore bcs its not profitable in the long run. Cant wait when the CEO cries that pirates are the reason for poor sales or something. First game might not have been massive success here sure, but can you imagine how bad will sales be on Epic? Lmao.

Any game, no matter good or bad, is doomed to die if it becomes an EGS exclusive. But every year there are always developers who want to give it a try, so let the players' wallets vote.

[zippydsmlee]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jill Valentine:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Savager:

Yep, it will fail af on PC just bcs of this. CEO is a fraud, he always says "players first" "players matter" etc. And then he endorses Epic making this game exclusive saying "they are so cool, they are literally funding this game". Dude! Steam players are your PC playerbase, they are the ones playing the game on PC and even if player numbers are not that high as other Souls games i guess they are good enough for you to make patches and updates through the year and pretty frequently at that. If he made one of his stupid polls with Steam or Epic i can guarantee that Steam would win unless he paid bots to vote for Epic.

Sequel is a no buy from me, i am not using Epic and never did. I dont care about free games bcs many of them were already in my Steam library. I wont use Epic just for one single game and a sequel to Steam game at that.

Also there is a good reason why not many devs are doing Epics exclusivity these days anymore. Gearbox learned it (B4 is day one on Steam), Ubisoft learned it(day one new games on Steam with added achievements). Its still insane to me that Remedy was in such a bad spot that they needed Epic to fund their game but it is what it is. Besides Remedy there is no one who is sucking Epic off anymore bcs its not profitable in the long run. Cant wait when the CEO cries that pirates are the reason for poor sales or something. First game might not have been massive success here sure, but can you imagine how bad will sales be on Epic? Lmao.

Any game, no matter good or bad, is doomed to die if it becomes an EGS exclusive. But every year there are always developers who want to give it a try, so let the players' wallets vote.

Not really, the exclusivity is only a year.

[Savager]

Oprindeligt skrevet af zippydsmlee:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jill Valentine:

Any game, no matter good or bad, is doomed to die if it becomes an EGS exclusive. But every year there are always developers who want to give it a try, so let the players' wallets vote.

Not really, the exclusivity is only a year.

Source? Bcs everything points towards permanent exclusivity like Alan Wake 2. Epic is completely funding it just like they did with AW2.

[Sgt. Magnusson]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Savager:

Oprindeligt skrevet af zippydsmlee:

Not really, the exclusivity is only a year.

Source? Bcs everything points towards permanent exclusivity like Alan Wake 2. Epic is completely funding it just like they did with AW2.

You're partially correct. The game doesn't seem to be coming to Steam unless Epic decides otherwise, but Epic is only partially funding the game, not completely. But, considering that they're putting money into it and also helping develop it, I'd say the chances of the sequel coming to Steam are very low, like 0.1% low.

[zippydsmlee]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Savager:

Oprindeligt skrevet af zippydsmlee:

Not really, the exclusivity is only a year.

Source? Bcs everything points towards permanent exclusivity like Alan Wake 2. Epic is completely funding it just like they did with AW2.

Few games if any stay on epic, because all epic is good for is a huge up front check, the rest of the money you make is from steam. Witchfire came out on steam after a year. So did many other games.

[zippydsmlee]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sgt. Magnusson:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Savager:

Source? Bcs everything points towards permanent exclusivity like Alan Wake 2. Epic is completely funding it just like they did with AW2.

You're partially correct. The game doesn't seem to be coming to Steam unless Epic decides otherwise, but Epic is only partially funding the game, not completely. But, considering that they're putting money into it and also helping develop it, I'd say the chances of the sequel coming to Steam are very low, like 0.1% low.

That would be dumb to let them have the game, thats a good way to kill your game , given steam metrics. Steam is where the mid and long term money is. But then again, this is a third person action game, so PS5 is where the real money is. I think they said PS5 is where they got most of their revenue, for the last game.

I'm'a gonna say its 50/50, many games are dumping devnuo after a year or 2, even after months, it means some executives have more awareness, so they are aware enough to not land lock their titles.

Its nice they are selling titles on epic for free to them, but that's not very profitable, but then again PC is always a secondary market if you sale stuff on PS5, or casual games on Nintendon't, unless you make non casual strategy games.. still it would be silly to land lock the title.

[Holden]

Wow this is my first time hearing its going to be an Epic Exclusive and boy is that not exciting.
Nevertheless I will be downloading Epic for it and it alone.

[solaris32]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Holden:

Wow this is my first time hearing its going to be an Epic Exclusive and boy is that not exciting.
Nevertheless I will be downloading Epic for it and it alone.

Don't make the mistake of thousands before you, the Epic launcher is godawful and the customer support is trash.