Lords of the Fallen

Lords of the Fallen

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Markgician Mar 3, 2024 @ 7:42am
Game Crashing Upon Startup [FIXED for me] - 14900k/4080
Hey, I just wanted to share my experience with Lords of the Fallen first. Ever since the game came out, I've been having problems trying to play it. I have had the following issues:
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The game would sometimes crash going into areas, just taking me straight to desktop.

The game would load but then come up with an "out of memory" error

The game would only get to where it comes up with "Press any Key to continue", i'd press any key, and as it was loading it would crash to desktop with an Unreal engine "/jenkins" error, for shader decompression.
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So, I've had a myriad of issues since day one and have not been able to play. I'm a junkie for souls/bourne-like games and was extremely disappointed when i could not play this.

Primarily this was the only game i owned that had this issue, however i did notice that a few other games were 'sometimes' erroring out when loading shaders: Tiny Tina's Wonderland, Remnant 2. They would both come up 'sometimes' with 'out of memory', but i would minimize the error and i could continue to play with absolutely no problems.

I made sure i didnt have XMP profiling off, I made sure i had AI tweaker set for no overclocking, I tried shutting down my E-Cores, I tried a LOT of things

I was disheartened about the game, however recently, i built my wife the same computer i had built myself, with the following specs:

Intel i9-14900k
g.Skill 2x32gb memory
ASUS TUF Z790 mb
Samsung 2x Evo 990 2TB
Gigabyte RTX 4080
850w Platinum PS
Windows 11 23h2

AAAAAAAAND the problem was occurring with her computer as well!

That being said I've been able to finally fix it, knowing that it didnt have anything to do with OS install, my certain physical hardware issues (per-se), etc...

I found an article on another tool's site, i'll link it here:

https://www.radgametools.com/oodleintel.htm

First, i will say, setting SVID Behavior in the bios to "Intel Fail Safe" worked for me, for all the games. It made everything more stable overall.

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Here are the rest of the recommended troubleshooting steps for 13900k and 14900k based processors from the site, that is pertinent (in case you didn't want to go to the link above):

In the BIOS, if you have enabled any overclocking, please turn it off; do not use "AI" or "automatic" overclocking. Even if you have not explicitly enabled any overclocking, many BIOSes are doing some by default, so on affected machines you will have to find those settings and turn them off. Every BIOS has slightly different names for the settings; we cannot provide exact instructions of which settings to look for all of them. Some of these settings may be in the Advanced or Overclocking submenu of the BIOS.

First look for settings to put the power limits and voltages of the processor into the Intel recommended safe ranges. You can find the correct limits for your processor at ark.intel.com. These might be:
"SVID behavior" → "Intel fail safe"
"Long duration power limit" → reduce to 125W if set higher ("Processor Base Power" on ARK)
"Short duration power limit" → reduce to 253W if set higher (for 13900/14900 CPUs, other CPUs have other limits! "Maximum Turbo Power" on ARK)

If those don't work, another thing to look for is BIOS "enhanced turbo" or "enhanced multithreading" settings. For example:
"ASUS MultiCore Enhancement" → disabled (not Auto)
"ASUS Performance Enhancement 3.0" → disabled

There have been reports of users finding stability by turning down the maximum clock rate. This can be done with BIOS settings or with Intel XTU. Some possibilities:
Turn down the maximum P core multiplier from 55X to 53X or 54X. (for example)
Turn down maximum turbo boost clock rate
Turn off or turn down "thermal velocity boost"

Note that many motherboard/BIOS settings turn on XMP (Extreme Memory Profile) by default with unstable settings that can cause similar symptoms. Instability due to XMP is a separate issue, but if you have instability problems, you may wish to also disable XMP and see if that helps.

Troubleshooting Update from Intel Corporation - Additional troubleshooting steps for ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI motherboards:

First, install Intel XTU and run the AVX2 test. If the AVX2 test failure is seen, try these options:

For ASUS:

Ask customer to change BIOS settings: Advanced (F7)- SVID Behavior: Change to "Intel's Fail Safe"
Reboot the OS and run XTU test again and if the AVX2 test can pass. Run games and see if the issue happens again.

For Gigabyte:

Solution A): In BIOS, select "ADVANCED MODE", in the Tweaker tab, locate the CPU Vcore and select "Normal" option, select "Dynamic Vcore(DVID)" option, change it from "Auto" to "+0.005V" Increase the DVID by +0.005 and reboot OS, until the game crash disappears and the system is running stable.
Solution B): In BIOS, select "Tweaker", select "Advanced Voltage Settings", select "CPU/VRAM Settings", adjust "CPU Vcore Loadline Calibration", recommend starting from "Low" to "Medium" until system is stable.
After implementing solution A or B, run the XTU test again and if the AVX2 test can pass. Run games and see if the issue happens again.

For MSI:

Solution A): In BIOS, select "OC", select "CPU Core Voltage Mode", select "Offset Mode", select "+(By PWM)", adjust the voltage until the system is stable, recommend not to exceed 0.025V for a single increase.
Solution B): In BIOS, select "OC", select "DigitALL Power", change "CPU Loadline Calibration Control", recommend starting from "Mode 7" to a lower value until system is stable.
After implementing solution A or B, run the XTU test again and if the AVX2 test can pass. Run games and see if the issue happens again.
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Fan4eG Mar 12, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
Giga 4090 \ 14700kf owner here!

I want to say this.
your advice didn't help me, it made it worse :D
But I'm not here to blame you, I'm here to explain the situation and how I fixed it.

I did it first:
Originally posted by Drmarkazola:
In BIOS, select "ADVANCED MODE", in the Tweaker tab, locate the CPU Vcore and select "Normal" option, select "Dynamic Vcore(DVID)" option, change it from "Auto" to "+0.005V" Increase the DVID by +0.005 and reboot OS, until the game crash disappears and the system is running stable.
and after this:
Originally posted by Drmarkazola:
In BIOS, select "Tweaker", select "Advanced Voltage Settings", select "CPU/VRAM Settings", adjust "CPU Vcore Loadline Calibration", recommend starting from "Low" to "Medium" until system is stable

it didnt help.
After that I started googling my problem on reddit and found this wonderful Redditor.

and his advice helped me with "memory error" in UE5 games.
after that most games (including UE5 games) stopped crashing and showing memory error. BUT!
some specific games (the latest one is Alan Wake 2) started to crash with the error "the game crashed due to a graphics card fault and will now exit". and I couldn't understand what was wrong for a long time. I did the steps in reverse order, did everything backwards and went back to the beginning. And i remembered that before that i touched the item in BIOS "CPU Vcore Loadline Calibration" and set it to LOW. so i went back and set it back and you know what? since then, 24+h I haven't had any problems. everything works like clockwork.

UPD: forgot to add that I also turned off after that I set "Dynamic Vcore(DVID)" back to auto.
Last edited by Fan4eG; Mar 12, 2024 @ 5:59pm
Ichi-niiPL Mar 13, 2024 @ 4:28am 
13600K/4080 here.

I didn't experience game crashes myself, but i already had my system fully set up in BIOS and ensured stability long before playing this game so that may had something to do with it. I instead had insane levels of stuttering it was completely unplayable - frametime was like a damn rollercoaster.
I solved the matter by disabling E-cores in system BIOS and disabling Rebar for the game via nvidia profile inspector - this 2 things eliminated stuttering for me - I also turned FrameGeneration on.

I also made the game actually use GPU's V-ram. It only uses 6gb max by default, i assume it's to optimize the game for older GPU (why don't they unleash it and just inform on presets how many GB are required for each setting is beyond me).

Anyway it's funny because - we've 13/14gen(which are almost same) i9-i7-i5 and alll of them have diferent issues. This game really doesn't seem to like Intel 13/14 gen heh.

The game itself is pretty good (if you can fix the performance issues) but the performance side of it needs further work still. Well this is what happens when you are early adopter of new game engine i suppose.
UnTimid May 31, 2024 @ 10:33am 
I was having the exact same issue with this game and Star Wars, cyberpunk with the i9 14900k. From my testing, I'm almost positive its due to insufficient voltage when the game loads due to SVID set to optimistic or too low of VCore. I haven't quite figured out which one for me is the cause exactly but setting it to intels baseline profile allowed it to open then switching back to the bios settings I had originally it still opens and haven't had any issues as of yet. So for anyone with i9 14900k just make sure to set your power limits to pl1 253 and pl2 253 and I set the ICCMAX to 400a and SVID to a typical scenario or auto. SVID would be I would adjust first if you get this error on any unreal engine game before downclocking your CPU. If you have an undervolt applied it may be too aggressive as well. But SVID is where I would start based on my testing with these games.
Seibzehn Jun 1, 2024 @ 4:53am 
Please NEVER use SVID Behavior: Intel Fail Safe,
because this is too much voltage which will cost life of your cpu.
Leave it on [AUTO] is correct.

Since yesterday you should be able to get a new bios with Intel's Performance/Extreme Settings (it was Intels deadline for new bios versions).

There are serveral ways to get rid of the UI4/U5 crashes which I got to with my 14900KS. But Intel Fail Safe is a missinformation from youtubers.

It for the badest cpus in the world which are not stable, and thats why Intel put some extra voltage here - so in the end its like overclocking without any speedsteps.
But at the cost of the life of your cpu.

This guide will you give an idea whats bios settings must be changed:
https://wccftech.com/asus-intel-baseline-profile-option-bios-mitigate-14th-13th-gen-cpu-gaming-stability-issues/

I also can recommend Intels XTU tool so you can setup most with this tool without rebooting and going into bios.
Last edited by Seibzehn; Jun 1, 2024 @ 5:06am
Eleum Jun 1, 2024 @ 11:39am 
the 13900k and 14900k are notorious for having stability problems while gaming .
the most simple fix for newbies and the ones who are not conformable messing around in the bios is simply lower the core multiplier little by little for example the 14900k it's default speed is 57 so you lower it to 56 - 55 or until your system is 100% stable and it is no longer crashing .
This will work for basically every users . you louse a tiny little bit of performance and it suck but it is better than crashing.
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