0 effort in AI, sadly

[Chevalier_Montrachet]

I mean, the AI cheats like it did in the 90s... I can't blame them back then, but come on! These days, there are ways to develop decent AI.............. Really bad, sadly.

[ssamgang 2]

How does it cheat? I haven't really noticed any cheats but maybe I haven't been paying enough attention to that.

[SHADOWLORD789]

AI ALWAYS CHEAT. Find any RTS games and set it to hard difficulty, AI ALWAYS CHEAT. It's called a challenge. Lower the difficulty if you can't take it. Back in the day, my friends edited Starcraft Brood War AI in editor to get 10x crystal and gas for LAN party survival challenge.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by ssamgang 2:

How does it cheat? I haven't really noticed any cheats but maybe I haven't been paying enough attention to that.

The developers stated, that AI does not cheat (like extra resources).

[XenoxXx]

i had played harder ai which is from red alert3 mod general evolution. The ai really harder than any rts i had played thus far. Tempest rising its ok maybe abit harder if u dont know the mechanic u need to understand and update all the research if u didnt update anything ai unit will be much stronger cos they had upgraded their units.

[Chevalier_Montrachet]

Originally posted by SHADOWLORD789:

AI ALWAYS CHEAT. Find any RTS games and set it to hard difficulty, AI ALWAYS CHEAT. It's called a challenge. Lower the difficulty if you can't take it. Back in the day, my friends edited Starcraft Brood War AI in editor to get 10x crystal and gas for LAN party survival challenge.

Starcraft 2 AI does not cheat.

[SHADOWLORD789]

Originally posted by Chevalier_Montrachet:

Originally posted by SHADOWLORD789:

AI ALWAYS CHEAT. Find any RTS games and set it to hard difficulty, AI ALWAYS CHEAT. It's called a challenge. Lower the difficulty if you can't take it. Back in the day, my friends edited Starcraft Brood War AI in editor to get 10x crystal and gas for LAN party survival challenge.

Starcraft 2 AI does not cheat.

Try Elite difficulty with AI, the math for crystal and gas resource and the units that AI spawn doesn't match, also the speed of AI producing units. But the AI are smarter & better than TR and more relentless. Losing sleep a few nights because of this LOL

[Haak]

as what I heard Ai doesn't cheat in this game

[Mikuma]

Originally posted by ssamgang 2:

How does it cheat? I haven't really noticed any cheats but maybe I haven't been paying enough attention to that.

The AI cheats, but in different ways than usually
Sure the AI does not gives itself money which is what the devs have communicated a lot to claim that "our AI does not cheat", but it is a lie: the AI does indeed not grant itself any cash, but the AI cheats in different ways
Try crushing a group of 10 dudes with a tank, and you'll see each of the 10 dudes instantly running in a different direction (doesn't work in campaign, only in skirmishes). It becomes more obvious if you drop a support power on a bunch of enemy infantry and tanks, each of them will instantly run in a different direction.
As the player does not have a key shortcut for an ability to immediately "spread out" troops the AI uses a feature that the human player does not have at his disposal (despite the feature being here and working as the AI can use it) hence yes, the AI cheats, but in different ways than usually

[Meneldil]

The AI doesn't cheat. If you destroy all its harvesters, it will simply be unable to do anything. It's better than you because it can do several things at once.

[Cat]

The AI has infinite APM.

[SHADOWLORD789]

Originally posted by Cat:

The AI has infinite APM.

This AI can execute multiple orders at once. Starting from hard difficulty, a good AI can coordinate attacks that few people can imitate. Some people call it multitasking, but many people I knew try to imitate this call it the art to screwing multiple things at once. The bottom line is there are not many people can multitasking like AI, so I think this is considered to be cheating too.

[Edward Von Worms]

it doesn't cheat we are just to slow to keep up with its apm. i play on easy and have fun normal means i need more coffee.

[Junkman]

Originally posted by Haak:

as what I heard Ai doesn't cheat in this game

It cheats. Send a unit to a part of the map that the AI hasn't uncovered yet, they'll send something to kill it pretty quickly.

It can see the entire map and everything you do.

[Morphic]

Originally posted by Mikuma:

Try crushing a group of 10 dudes with a tank, and you'll see each of the 10 dudes instantly running in a different direction (doesn't work in campaign, only in skirmishes). It becomes more obvious if you drop a support power on a bunch of enemy infantry and tanks, each of them will instantly run in a different direction.

That's not cheating. You can do that too... if your APM is high enough. Are most people going to be capable of that? Obviously not. Even in my prime climbing ladder in SC2 Diamond league, I only had an APM average of ~219 so I still wouldn't be able to pull off a maneuver quite as good as the AI does. Yet I'd still be able to mostly dodge/evade the tanks or support power.

That said, you are right in that the AI does cheat in different ways. AFAIK, the only notable ways it cheats is having full vision of the map. Basically, the AI does not have to deal with Fog of War. They know where everything is at all times... which is a huge cheat in this game since that means you can't leave anything undefended or "sneak" stuff.

Even so, the AI is rather weak once you understand the game and have some proper build orders/strats for maps. In 1v1 a simple rush will likely win against them. You basically need to put AI on a team in order to actually be challenged.

[Mikuma]

Originally posted by Morphic:

Originally posted by Mikuma:

Try crushing a group of 10 dudes with a tank, and you'll see each of the 10 dudes instantly running in a different direction (doesn't work in campaign, only in skirmishes). It becomes more obvious if you drop a support power on a bunch of enemy infantry and tanks, each of them will instantly run in a different direction.

That's not cheating. You can do that too... if your APM is high enough. Are most people going to be capable of that? Obviously not. Even in my prime climbing ladder in SC2 Diamond league, I only had an APM average of ~219 so I still wouldn't be able to pull off a maneuver quite as good as the AI does. Yet I'd still be able to mostly dodge/evade the tanks or support power.

That said, you are right in that the AI does cheat in different ways. AFAIK, the only notable ways it cheats is having full vision of the map. Basically, the AI does not have to deal with Fog of War. They know where everything is at all times... which is a huge cheat in this game since that means you can't leave anything undefended or "sneak" stuff.

Even so, the AI is rather weak once you understand the game and have some proper build orders/strats for maps. In 1v1 a simple rush will likely win against them. You basically need to put AI on a team in order to actually be challenged.

the AI is pretty weak overall, they send a lot of cheap weak units, very few lategame units, mostly spam the same 2-3 units and never produce many tanks
killing 3 Hard AIs in 20 minutes is trivial as GDF (Skycranes each loaded with 8 Drone Operators and 2 Engineers), it gets a bit tougher as DYN but still very doable
The AI isn't even good, frankly it just cheats in very frustrating ways to annoy the players without even being a threat