Tempest Rising

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aeroth Apr 29 @ 7:40am
Balance
Right now GDF is a bit too strong.
Here's a few simple suggestions i have for some balance:

- Please give scatter button for group of units ! this would help you keep your infantry alive
- Faster time to build the tempest harvester for dynasty. I'd even go as far as have them start with 1 of thouse harvesters. They're early game is very awful.
- For some reason dynasty helicopter cannot carry vehicles. Let it carry vehicles also.
- make the power plant overchage to not do damage or really decrease the damage it does to your buildings. it leaves you far too vulnerable in the early game.

Ironicly the dynasty is very very strong late game because of it's air force. (pretty sure the intention was for gdf to have a stronger air force).
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Both Parties are unsymmetric in gameplay. After testing some things out, the GDF is good a defensive. With Artillery tower+Artillery tanks not much can penetrate your position.
On the other side, the dynasties defenses are breached easily.
Basically you place two repair vehicles at your generator and production buldings and let the genertor run wild. WIth the vehicles repairing each other and the buildings, you don`t have that much trouble.
But both sides have 200 troops, to overrun the GDF you must keep up the production, while throwing / rushing anaything at GDF.
I would have loved when the dynastie would had some Big fat Laser gun like an Obelisk in a certian other game. They could go with som Railguns or buff the sensortower somehow to do damage.
Originally posted by aeroth:
Right now GDF is a bit too strong.
Here's a few simple suggestions i have for some balance:

- Please give scatter button for group of units ! this would help you keep your infantry alive
- Faster time to build the tempest harvester for dynasty. I'd even go as far as have them start with 1 of thouse harvesters. They're early game is very awful.
- For some reason dynasty helicopter cannot carry vehicles. Let it carry vehicles also.
- make the power plant overchage to not do damage or really decrease the damage it does to your buildings. it leaves you far too vulnerable in the early game.

Ironicly the dynasty is very very strong late game because of it's air force. (pretty sure the intention was for gdf to have a stronger air force).
You took bikerrushes youtube video and just made a post with no reference or credit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKd_qBhwTpQ

Im gunna sound like an ass, but unless your a top player, probably shouldn't be making balance posts.
aeroth Apr 29 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by WastedAmmo:
Originally posted by aeroth:
Right now GDF is a bit too strong.
Here's a few simple suggestions i have for some balance:

- Please give scatter button for group of units ! this would help you keep your infantry alive
- Faster time to build the tempest harvester for dynasty. I'd even go as far as have them start with 1 of thouse harvesters. They're early game is very awful.
- For some reason dynasty helicopter cannot carry vehicles. Let it carry vehicles also.
- make the power plant overchage to not do damage or really decrease the damage it does to your buildings. it leaves you far too vulnerable in the early game.

Ironicly the dynasty is very very strong late game because of it's air force. (pretty sure the intention was for gdf to have a stronger air force).
You took bikerrushes youtube video and just made a post with no reference or credit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKd_qBhwTpQ

Im gunna sound like an ass, but unless your a top player, probably shouldn't be making balance posts.


I didn't do that. I'm a very old gamer I'm not from the generation that watches other players play a game. I prefer to play the game myself.
I won't even watch your video to see what it's about.
aeroth Apr 29 @ 11:41am 
Oh and i'm not a top player but i will continue to make balance posts because freedom.
aeroth Apr 29 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Apothecary Michael:
Both Parties are unsymmetric in gameplay. After testing some things out, the GDF is good a defensive. With Artillery tower+Artillery tanks not much can penetrate your position.
On the other side, the dynasties defenses are breached easily.
Basically you place two repair vehicles at your generator and production buldings and let the genertor run wild. WIth the vehicles repairing each other and the buildings, you don`t have that much trouble.
But both sides have 200 troops, to overrun the GDF you must keep up the production, while throwing / rushing anaything at GDF.
I would have loved when the dynastie would had some Big fat Laser gun like an Obelisk in a certian other game. They could go with som Railguns or buff the sensortower somehow to do damage.


I'm not a dynasty player. I'm a gdf player but it's just dumb that i can engineer rush every game.
I see dynasty i engineer rush and GG.
Money Glitch ? Irgend ne scheiss cheat wieder.. Money glitsch oder so... kanns 100 einheiten haben die kommen mit 200 etc vor 2 tagen hab ich nochmal gewonnen,, jetzt nicht eine runde mehr.. Drecks cheater menschen will mein geld wieder
Last edited by Nerd Dragon; Apr 29 @ 11:52am
WastedAmmo Apr 29 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by aeroth:
Originally posted by WastedAmmo:
You took bikerrushes youtube video and just made a post with no reference or credit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKd_qBhwTpQ

Im gunna sound like an ass, but unless your a top player, probably shouldn't be making balance posts.


I didn't do that. I'm a very old gamer I'm not from the generation that watches other players play a game. I prefer to play the game myself.
I won't even watch your video to see what it's about.
You post a hour or two after the rank 1 player makes a video about every point you make (other then the weird power plant thing) and your really gunna say you didnt just copy his points.... wow lol

Well sir, you are a liar.
aeroth Apr 29 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by Nerd Dragon > linux Edition:
Money Glitch ? Irgend ne scheiss cheat wieder.. Money glitsch oder so... kanns 100 einheiten haben die kommen mit 200 etc vor 2 tagen hab ich nochmal gewonnen,, jetzt nicht eine runde mehr.. Drecks cheater menschen will mein geld wieder

what ?
aeroth Apr 29 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by WastedAmmo:
Originally posted by aeroth:


I didn't do that. I'm a very old gamer I'm not from the generation that watches other players play a game. I prefer to play the game myself.
I won't even watch your video to see what it's about.
You post a hour or two after the rank 1 player makes a video about every point you make (other then the weird power plant thing) and your really gunna say you didnt just copy his points.... wow lol

Well sir, you are a liar.


Because 2 people cannot come to the same conclusions when the conclusions are obvious.
Believe what you want. I don't watch influencers or youtubers or whatever you want to call them.
I'm even surprised you have "top player" in a game that just released....
aeroth Apr 29 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by WastedAmmo:
Originally posted by SushiBar:
cant you just agree with the guy? why gatekeep so much? do i really have to tell you to touch grass? Regarding the balance i feel like bikerush's points are correct and Dynasty feels a little underpowered compared to GDF
what exactly would I be agreeing with? What am I gate keeping? Keeping things honest is now gatekeeping/needing to touch grass i suppose. Not sure why you feel the need to throw ad hominem at me.

For the last time. I'm master of magic old, original c&c old, I don't watch kids playing games i play games myself.
Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that other people use their brain when playing a game and they don't copy your favorite influencer ?

It's really becoming annoying and pathetic. Please move on.

edit: Surreal conversation, really. This is actually the second time this has happened to me that a fanboy of some influencer is harrasing me that his favorite influencer said so and so. What is happening to this younger generation ?
Last edited by aeroth; Apr 29 @ 10:19pm
WastedAmmo Apr 29 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by aeroth:
Originally posted by WastedAmmo:
what exactly would I be agreeing with? What am I gate keeping? Keeping things honest is now gatekeeping/needing to touch grass i suppose. Not sure why you feel the need to throw ad hominem at me.

For the last time. I'm master of magic old, original c&c old, I don't watch kids playing games i play games myself.
Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that other people use their brain when playing a game and they don't copy your favorite influencer ?

It's really becoming annoying and pathetic. Please move on.
No your lying, its plan as day. Not going to pretend for you bud.
Or your just so amazing, you have the same exact thought as the best player within an hour of them making a video. Really sad this is your stand lmao
Whats this about influencers and age (im likely older not that it matters)? Think your reaching a bit and trying to distract from the fact that you are a liar.
Last edited by WastedAmmo; Apr 29 @ 10:26pm
aeroth Apr 29 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by WastedAmmo:
Originally posted by aeroth:

For the last time. I'm master of magic old, original c&c old, I don't watch kids playing games i play games myself.
Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that other people use their brain when playing a game and they don't copy your favorite influencer ?

It's really becoming annoying and pathetic. Please move on.
No your lying, its plan as day. Not going to pretend for you bud.
Or your just so amazing, you have the same exact thought as the best player within an hour of them making a video. Really sad this is your stand lmao
Whats this about influencers and age (im likely older not that it matters)? Think your reaching a bit and trying to distract from the fact that you are a liar.


So you have to be a top player to want a scatter button (a thing that was in all c&c games), have the dynasty start with a harvester so they can get past the gruesome early build, have both helicopters of both factions carry the same thing and wanting to get rid of that dumb power plant damage again to get rid of that dumb early game ???

Really ?

Maybe you are older then me maybe you are not. You do realize the internet is crazy big and there is no way for me or anyone to know what each influencer is posting right ? You coming here and crying that i didn't post him as a source is really crazy as hell.

Please move on with your life. Go watch some kid telling you how to think.
uSIHitMan Apr 29 @ 10:37pm 
If u wanna build Harvester faster. Use generator Bonus. Thats whats it literally designed for
aeroth Apr 29 @ 10:38pm 
Originally posted by uSIHitMan:
If u wanna build Harvester faster. Use generator Bonus. Thats whats it literally designed for

The generator damages your buildings leaving you in a worse position. It should be time limited like an ability with a cooldown but not do any damage.

edit: everytime i see the barracks or the factory low hp i just attack them. it's easy to destroy them with the early drone soldiers.
Last edited by aeroth; Apr 29 @ 10:42pm
Originally posted by WastedAmmo:
Im gunna sound like an ass, but unless your a top player, probably shouldn't be making balance posts.
I'd like to congratulate you for being one of the people who contributes to killing games with this kind of thinking.

If casual players are told to shut up and not have opinions like this. (And that's the message this delivers) They'll stop caring and go somewhere else. And these people are gonna be the majority of purchases. Most move on naturally, but some will decide to get involved with a community, and this works as a clear signal of "You're unwanted here."
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