How does Tempest Rising compare to other modern RTS games

[TokyoDan]

How would you rank Tempest Rising when compared to other modern RTS games like Grey Goo, Ashes of The Singularity, Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak?

[Deathstroke72]

I would say it's better than Grey Goo and Ashes of the Singularity. It is also on the same level of enjoyment as Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak.

I give it a B on RTS tiers, but this could change if the game is well-supported in the future.

[TokyoDan]

Originally posted by Deathstroke72:

I would say it's better than Grey Goo and Ashes of the Singularity. It is also on the same level of enjoyment as Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak.

I give it a B on RTS tiers, but this could change if the game is well-supported in the future.

Thanks. What games would you give an A?

[startrekmike]

Originally posted by TokyoDan:

How would you rank Tempest Rising when compared to other modern RTS games like Grey Goo, Ashes of The Singularity, Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak?

Out of all of those, Tempest Rising is going to be most like Grey Goo in regards to general mechanical feel. Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak and Ashes of the Singularity are quite different and can't really be compared very effectively.

Tempest Rising is a old-school RTS that draws a lot of its inspiration from the older Command and Conquer franchise. It is all about building up a base and building an army to destroy the enemy base. In that way, it is a lot like Grey Goo but generally quite a bit better.

Tempest Rising isn't going to reinvent the wheel but it also isn't trying to and has made no secret of that. It is very clearly targeting the older Command and Conquer fanbase and since that market is quite under-served, it is good that Tempest Rising gets a lot of things right.

[Xan84]

Originally posted by TokyoDan:

How would you rank Tempest Rising when compared to other modern RTS games like Grey Goo, Ashes of The Singularity, Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak?

I was playing the campaign of c&c tiberium wars recently and its far superior to what this game offers.
Now for those 3 games. Depends in what? Campaign? All those 3 games have better campaign. Skirmish? I like Tempest Rising more then those 3. PvP? No idea, did not play that in any of the 3.

The campaign in this one is quite subpar. Nothing stands out, after I just finished the campaign I pretty much forgot all of it. Nothing that stands out like in Tib Wars where you use the cannon, create a huge boom and the Scrin invade (just an example).

[TokyoDan]

Originally posted by startrekmike:

Originally posted by TokyoDan:

How would you rank Tempest Rising when compared to other modern RTS games like Grey Goo, Ashes of The Singularity, Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak?

Out of all of those, Tempest Rising is going to be most like Grey Goo in regards to general mechanical feel. Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak and Ashes of the Singularity are quite different and can't really be compared very effectively.

Tempest Rising is a old-school RTS that draws a lot of its inspiration from the older Command and Conquer franchise. It is all about building up a base and building an army to destroy the enemy base. In that way, it is a lot like Grey Goo but generally quite a bit better.

Tempest Rising isn't going to reinvent the wheel but it also isn't trying to and has made no secret of that. It is very clearly targeting the older Command and Conquer fanbase and since that market is quite under-served, it is good that Tempest Rising gets a lot of things right.

I had C&C on the Playstation 1. I thought it was a cute toy, and after a few missions I quit C&C, probably because I was on a game console and using a crippling gamepad instead of a proper gaming PC with a keyboard. (my Japanese wife really got into C&C and beat the campaign)

That said, I never really cared for C&C and Warcraft and Starcraft. All of them seemed very un-serious, toyish, and limited in their control schemes. And they felt even more so when Total Annihilation and Warzone 2100 came out. TA, Warzone, and TA's Supreme Commander successors are the kings of RTS. Comparable to the kings are Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak, and Ashes of The Singularity. There are all serious RTSes.

[Selphea]

My very biased ranking:

#1 - Tempest Rising - Nice long campaign with intrigue, interesting game-specific mechanics like Comms buff, Marked, Dynamos, Overcharge, Doctrines, Armory etc. Gets the pacing just right

#2 - Homeworld DoK - Solid base game but very short campaign and literally 1 tileset so content is very lacking. Some interesting mechanics like LOS and mobile carriers though.

#3 - Grey Goo - Been a while but I somewhat remember Earth didn't feel very fun to play and Betas felt very vanilla. Campaign was OK though.

#4 - Ashes of the Singularity - At one point it was fun but a dev who was gone for a while came back and reverted a bunch of popular changes for no provided reason, which threw faction balance completely off so I uninstalled. Also their balance changes tend to break campaign missions. Based on player count, the game looks like it's languishing these days.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by TokyoDan:

Originally posted by Deathstroke72:

I would say it's better than Grey Goo and Ashes of the Singularity. It is also on the same level of enjoyment as Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak.

I give it a B on RTS tiers, but this could change if the game is well-supported in the future.

Thanks. What games would you give an A?

A Good Question, I would be curious about it too.

I give definitely A to Tempest Rising on RTS tiers.

[TokyoDan]

Great help and feedback. I may purchase it.

[TokyoDan]

There is a very good discussion of Tempest Rising with the developer on Episode 25 of the Critical Moves podcast which I consider to be the successor of the Three Moves Ahead podcast which went downhill after Rob Zackny left.
https://pca.st/5euthl09
https://criticalmovespodcast.com/

[Deathstroke72]

Originally posted by TokyoDan:

Originally posted by Deathstroke72:

I would say it's better than Grey Goo and Ashes of the Singularity. It is also on the same level of enjoyment as Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak.

I give it a B on RTS tiers, but this could change if the game is well-supported in the future.

Thanks. What games would you give an A?

Depending on whether we are talking about strictly base-building real-time strategy games?

But I feel that the games like Company of Heroes 2, BAR, and Terminator: Dark Fate Defiance after being patched are grade A RTS.
I felt the new Starship troopers RTS was better as well. Especially with it's new patch coming out soon.

Tempest Rising can be high up there after some more content or something.

What is modern RTS nowadays? Is CNC3 still modern?

[Jack_Burton]

Great list of games! You list 3 of my most played RTS games in recent years. I think overall Tempest Rising is the best of that group as a total package. Ranking them:

1) Tempest Rising - best overall package. Has active multiplayer, campaign, excellent graphics, great factions...

2) Ashes of the Singularity - very different RTS, more large scale like Supreme Commander. Devs leaned hard into single player content, so there is a lot to play even without an active multiplayer. Graphics are great and might give your machine a good test.

3) Homeworld Deserts of Kharak - maybe the best RTS single player I've ever played. Excellent campaign with very unique units and art style. Skirmish is pretty good, but multiplayer is not active.

4) Grey Goo - the most like Tempest Rising mechanically. Solid campaign and skirmish is pretty fun. Great factions and graphics. Multiplayer isn't active anymore. Back when these came out in 2016, I would rank this above the others. But as time goes on, Grey Goo does not have the level of single player content the others have to make up for an inactive multiplayer.

[XenoxXx]

well i cant really remmember any good rts recent year, 4x yes gladius its 40k.

Ash of sigularity maybe i played too much supreme commander i never played it even though its in my library.

homeworld game maybe i play too many home world still think the older series is better.

grey goo its mixed reviews its good? Personally i haven't played this one if its good i might wanna try.

The good rts all remasterd like command and conquer and starcraft but i cant play starcraft cos to me its the same game.

homeworld 3 review is really bad.

[CptnCankles]

Originally posted by TokyoDan:

Originally posted by Deathstroke72:

I would say it's better than Grey Goo and Ashes of the Singularity. It is also on the same level of enjoyment as Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak.

I give it a B on RTS tiers, but this could change if the game is well-supported in the future.

Thanks. What games would you give an A?

Sins of a Solar Empire 2. There really haven't been many RTS games the last 10 years. This isn't the 90's-2000's where RTS games were dominant.

[Pervy]

Originally posted by TokyoDan:

How would you rank Tempest Rising when compared to other modern RTS games like Grey Goo, Ashes of The Singularity, Homeworld: Deserts of Khrak?

I would not compare this to Ashes of The Singularity. Its like comparing sup com to C&C.

TR is Bare on its skirmish mode, but the campaign is pretty good, even tho the voice acting could need some polish. I say the game is worth for the campaign.
Skirmish is lacking hard.

[XenoxXx]

yeah sin of solar 2 is really great the rest cant really remember any good title.